On Purpose (Reprise)

The rejection of the idea of teleology was tied to Galileo’s rejection of Aristotelian physics, with it’s outmoded notions of ‘natural place’. However, I argue that while this is perfectly sound for physics, it is questionable in biology, as all of organic life acts so as to preserve itself and survive which in principle is a form of rudimentary intentional action, even if not in the first place accompanied by conscious awareness, which evolves much later. Living things are not simply acted upon by forces —they grow, develop, repair, adapt and evolve. Throughout, they act as if they’re pursuing ends: survival, reproduction, flourishing. And biologists, even when steeped in the reductionist spirit, can’t help but speak in the language of purpose.

In 20th c biology, this gave rise to a certain unease, memorably captured by J. B. S. Haldane:

Teleology is like a mistress to a biologist: he cannot live without her but he’s unwilling to be seen with her in public.

To ease this tension, the term teleonomy was introduced. It was meant to describe the appearance of goal-directedness in living organisms without invoking any spooky metaphysical purpose. In other words, creatures act as if they have ends, but these ends are entirely the result of blind evolutionary processes. The term was a rhetorical compromise: a way to acknowledge the structure and coherence of biological processes while maintaining ideological fidelity to non-purposive causality.

(But then, who’s to say what really distinguishes ‘apparent’ from ‘real’ purpose? I suspect that what many people mean by ‘real purpose’ is simply purpose of the kind they can entertain having—deliberate, self-conscious, human. But if you’re a lone villager being stalked by a rogue tiger while gathering firewood, that tiger’s intent is deadly real, and you’ll discover it soon enough if you don’t make haste.)

So, as the philosopher David Hull once noted, “calling something ‘teleonomic’ doesn’t explain teleology away—it just gives it a different name.” The explanatory work is still being done by the as if. And when the entire vocabulary of biology—function, adaptation, selection, error-correction, information—is suffused with purpose-shaped terms, one has to wonder whether we’ve really done away with telos, or simply smuggled it back in through the servants’ entrance.

The Great Abstraction

The rise of early modern physics was built on a profound methodological simplification: the exclusion of context. Galileo and Newton inaugurated a new style of reasoning by isolating variables—mass, motion, force—and expressing their relations mathematically. The result was a set of laws remarkable for their precision and generality. What made them so effective was precisely their invariance: they were true in all places and times, for all observers, regardless of the specificities of any actual situation. As Thomas Nagel put it in Mind and Cosmos, regarding the inevitable dualism that this entailed:

The modern mind-body problem arose out of the scientific revolution of the seventeenth century, as a direct result of the concept of objective physical reality that drove that revolution. Galileo and Descartes made the crucial conceptual division by proposing that physical science should provide a mathematically precise quantitative description of an external reality extended in space and time, a description limited to spatiotemporal primary qualities such as shape, size, and motion, and to laws governing the relations among them. Subjective appearances, on the other hand – how this physical world appears to human perception – were assigned to the mind, and the secondary qualities like color, sound, and smell were to be analyzed relationally, in terms of the power of physical things, acting on the senses, to produce those appearances in the minds of observers. It was essential to leave out or subtract subjective appearances and the human mind – as well as human intentions and purposes – from the physical world in order to permit this powerful but austere spatiotemporal conception of objective physical reality to develop. (Mind and Cosmos, Pp35-36)

But this universality came at a price. To attain it, physics had to bracket out the world as we actually live it: a world rich with meaning, embedded in time, shaped by perception and concern. Philosopher of biology Steve Talbott put it like this:

The physicist wants laws that are as universal as possible, true of all situations and therefore unable to tell us much about any particular situation — laws, in other words, that are true regardless of meaning and context… Such abstraction shows up in the strong urge toward the mathematization of physical laws.

In this light, the familiar claim that the universe is meaningless begins to look suspicious. It isn’t so much a conclusion reached by science, but a background assumption—one built into the methodology from the outset. The exclusion of purpose was never, and in fact could never be, empirically demonstrated; it was simply excluded as a factor in the kind of explanations physics was intended to provide. Meaning was left behind for the sake of predictive accuracy and control in specific conditions.

That this bracketing was useful—indeed revolutionary—is not in doubt. But the further move, so often taken for granted in modern discourse, is the assertion that because physics finds no purpose, the universe therefore has none. This is not science speaking, but metaphysics ventriloquizing through the authority of science. It is a philosophical sleight of hand that confuses methodological silence for ontological negation.

And yet, the moment we turn to the biological realm, the limits of this framework become apparent. Organisms don’t merely obey laws—they respond, adapt, develop, pursue, express. They live. Their very being is bound up with shifting internal and external contexts, with dynamic self-organization and regulation. As Talbott further writes:

In biology a changing context does not interfere with some causal truth we are trying to see; contextual transformation is itself the truth we are after… Every creature lives by virtue of the dynamic, pattern-shifting play of a governing context, which extends into an open-ended environment. The organism gives expression, at every level of its being, to the unbounded because of reason — the tapestry of meaning.

To speak of organisms is necessarily to speak in the language of function, adaptation, and goal-directedness. Biologists may insist that these are mere heuristics, that such language is shorthand for mechanisms with no actual purpose. And the plain fact is that life is not like that.


(This is a reprise of a thread posted on the previous version of the forum which can be accessed via the archives. There’s also a complete draft on Medium which can be accessed here without without requiring sign-up.)

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Continuing the discussion from "Thomistic Idealism":

I do not ascribe intentionality to the universe simply because a model of everything we know so far about the universe (with the only real gaps being w.r.t. the explanation of details of the Standard Model, the unification of quantum physics with relativity, and the nature of certain aspects of the interpretation of quantum physics such as ‘what is an observer’) does not need it. Adding intentionality to the basic model of the universe would require it coming from somewhere, which would need explanation. By excluding intentionality one arrives at a simpler concept of reality with nothing lost.

This is not some special metaphysical characteristic of organic life itself, though, but as mentioned just a simple consequence of the fact that life that persists and propagates itself also propagates the fact that it persists and propagates itself while life that fails to do so does not successfully propagate itself. Naturally, the vast majority of ‘successful’ life has come to exhibit this property for the very reason that its progenitors all managed to propagate themselves.

The ‘cosmic programmer’ is just one potential beginning to our fundamentally rule-driven universe; there are other potential beginnings. Of course, it raises the question of how did the cosmic programmer’s universe begin ─ if our universe is a simulation, is the cosmic programmer’s universe also a simulation, and so on?

The key aspect, though, is regardless of how our universe came into being, it is clearly driven by deducible physical laws and has no need for the positing of ‘intentions’, so it is parsimonious to not posit any underlying ‘intentions’ to the universe.

Hence why I started a new thread.

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I’m afraid not. What you have is a model of what can be explained in terms of the assumptions and measurements you begin with. Recall, as I said in the OP, physics begins with abstraction and exclusion. It abstacts the quantifiable attributes of objects, and excludes factors which it deems irrelevant to deriving observations from those facts.

Besides, the point of the argument I’m advancing is not to posit a ‘divine intention’ as ‘behind it all’. It is simply to point to the radical discontinuity between living organisms and non-living matter. Organisms from the outset maintain themselves via homeostasis, heal from injury, seek sustence, grow, reproduce, mutate and evolve. The objects of physics don’t exhibit those behaviours.

The laws of physics do not explain how the universe came into being, as at the time of the singularity there were no laws (which is a fact acknowledge in physics.) Certainly a great deal can be deduced about the evolution of the physical universe since that time, although as is well-known, there are also some glaring inconsistencies. But assuming that these laws also must explain the origin of life, which is a separate question altogether, is just that -an assumption.

The emergence of life, however, is not ‘a simple fact’.

Function and adaptation, yes. Goal-directedness, no.

Words like purpose and goal have an underlying implication of volition.

Agreed — we can posit a biological realm without any sort of underlying volition at any level without any corresponding increase in complexity or decrease in predictive power elsewhere, so it is most parsimonious to simply omit the concept to begin with.

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About teleonomy and evolution, one thing to remember is that the concept of teleonomy operates on the level of organisms, in so far as that teleonomy consists of inheritable ‘programs’ that have evolved because they favor their own self-propagation (as programs that failed to favor their own self-propagation typically fail to be propagated in the long term), while the processes of evolution are non-teleonomic, being simple physical processes that require no sort of ‘programs’, and require no need for positing any kind of teleology.

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I should also note that as tempting as it may be, one should not confuse teleonomy and teleology, as teleology requires some sort of underlying volition to the universe, as mentioned, whereas teleonomy is distinctly without volition. Teleology effectively implies that the universe has a ‘will’ (which one may call ‘God’), whereas teleonomy is inherently something derived from volition-less, purpose-less physical processes that have no need for concepts such as ‘God’.

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Of course, things are complicated by phenomena such as the Baldwin effect, where changes in behavior at the organism level predispose changes in biology at the evolutionary level, and hence the relationship between evolution at the physical level and encoded ‘programs’ operating at the organism level is not entirely one-way.

Biologists have no problem to describe living beings in intentional terms, e.g. wings are made for flying, because they have in the background the Darwinian evolutionist model that explain this appearance of intentionality that is in fact random variation selected by the environment or sexual selection.

So my question is: what is the problem here? Why are you not satisfied by this clean, neutral model?

Things such as these are obviously just shorthand for teleonomy, as no reasonable scientist with a foundation in evolution would state that wings are so because of some greater volition in the universe that designed them to be so.

As for the OP’s post, I think that teleonomy and teleology are being conflated in a manner that just confuses the matter. Yes, the concepts are superficially similar (and the fact that the words themselves are similar does not help), but that does not mean that the underlying philosophies behind the two concepts can be interchanged.

You are a [censored] rookie in Intelligent Design right? Wayfarer is more experienced and will not answer. He has guessed he will be beaten to death :smiley:

Umm… it seems that you like calling people “low-(I)Q”, from seeing your other posts on this forum, but I have no clue as to why you are pulling out that epithet here (as usually you use it to refer to religious people which your personal philosophy seems to dismiss as categorically irrational from what I gather).

As for Wayfarer, they’re clearly either, depending on how charitably one wants to take their arguments, confused about teleonomy and teleology (while one might argue that Wayfarer is sufficiently intelligent that they’d not do such a thing, I’ve seen plenty of intelligent people be even more confused), or they are deliberately conflating the two for rhetorical effect (e.g. to sneak in intelligent design by the back door).

As Nagel and Husserl argue, physical mechanism and strict causal determinism are the products of abstractions that we construct and place over phenomena. When the determinist or physicalist says matter is meaningless or dead, they mean that it has the freedom to do nothing other than what its already assigned properties and attributes (either intrinsic or relational) determine it should do. But take note that since it is we who assign it these abstract properties, physical master is not in fact meaningless but imports its meaning from, that is, is parasitic on, our own assumed purposes.

That is to say, there is a presupposition of purpose behind the abstractions empiricists place over the world. As Husserl explains, concepts like identity, mechanical causation and physical lawfulness are idealizations that are MEANT to intend our own purposes into things. What makes the physical world dead and meaningless is precisely the idealizing abstractions which are generated by rule giving subjects such as we. Notions like identity and mechanism are the essence of purpose.

The question is, once we delve into the plumbing of how we construct intentional concepts like physicalism, can we even claim that what we are doing involves purpose, or is the concept of purpose itself just an abstraction that we construct? Doesn’t purpose imply a means-end relationship in which the logic is hermetically sealed within itself? Posing the idea of a law-governed meaningless universe assumes the rationalism of an overarching logic, a grand, even if atheistic, purposefulness of assigned terms in a pre-ordered relation.

Brook Ziporyn argues:

We call all things “things,” but not all things are the same or require the same type of treatment. The illegitimate step lies in assuming that there must be a single standard applied at all times, for all types of situations, regarding every type of subject matter. Why assume that there is any unity of this kind applying to the world, that all existence must form one single system with a single set of laws and rules applying to all of it? That too is part of the circular assumption of the sole universal authority of Reason—an assumption that, I would argue, ironically has deep roots precisely in the idea of God.The presupposition that the unity of Reason can be represented as a set of consistent and universally applicable laws with a positive content is a holdover precisely from raw monotheistic intuitions. It implicitly posits the God’s-eye point of view, a unified purposive consciousness and therefore a single-focused consciousness, which embraces everything at once and for which everything is a definite object, a definite tool, a definite work.

We are not really escaping the logic of rationalism if we reject the meaningless of mechanism but replace it with an explanation of living systems which imports from the former the idea of teleological purpose. All we’ve done by making that move is to expand the idea of purpose beyond human subjects to all of life. Saying the aim of life is self-preservation is relying on an abstraction, that of persisting self identity. Nietzsche was closer to the mark when he wrote:

“Darwin absurdly overestimates the influence of ‘external circumstances’; the essential thing about the life process is precisely the tremendous force which shapes, creates form from within, which utilizes and exploits ‘external circumstances’ … -that the new forms created from within are not shaped with a purpose in view, but that in the struggle of the parts, it won’t be long before a new form begins to relate to a partial usefulness, and then develops more and more completely according to how it is used.” “Everything that lives is exactly what shows most clearly that it does everything possible not to preserve itself but to become more …” (Last Notebooks)

People are accustomed to consider the goal (purposes. vocations, etc.) as the driving force, in keeping with a very ancient error; but it is merely the directing force; One has mistaken the helmsman for the steam. And not even always the helmsman, the directing force. Is the “goal,” the "purpose’’ not often enough a beautifying pretext, a self-deception of vanity after the event that does not want to acknowledge that the ship is following the current into which it has entered accidentally? that it “wills” to go that way because it must? that it has a direction, to be sure, but – no helmsman at all? We still need a critique of the concept of “purpose.”” (The Gay Science)

We can explain the maintenance over time of a consistent pattern of self-organization in living systems without having to resort to the concept of purpose if purpose imples a vector, pattern or way of being which identically produces itself
moment to moment and as such dictates the direction of events from below. We can instead explain the appearance of such seeming purposefulness on the basis of continually self-transforming relations which are neither strictly random (pure randomness itself implies and depends on the notion of causal determinism) nor fixed by mechanical laws.

Let’s say that I tell you that every moment of time produces a change in your experience of the world as a whole, such that in five moments, one has been transported to five different worlds. I would then caution that these transformations from one moment of time to the next are extremely subtle, such that all we notice is a seeming persistent self-identity.

If each moment produces its own ‘purpose’ in the sense that it introduces a new vector or way of meaning, it wouldn’t be accurate to claim that what we perceive in the fifth moment is enclosed within the same purpose as the fist moment. We would have to say instead that we are left with the illusory appearance of an overarching purpose carrying through this span of time. We can argue that for everyday activities, it is as though such an overarching directionality were operating from below. I read you as wanting to claim that the enclosed enclosure is primary, escaping the subversive effects of time.

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Not all physicists would agree with you. For instance, Lee Smolin and Christopher Fuchs don’t believe the universe is driven by fixed laws.

What I wrote from another topic:

But water and sunlight are external and contingent upon the seed. The final cause could not come about without the introduction of elements external to the individual or thing to which the final cause applies. Therefore, the final cause (the plant, the tree) is also contingent. Otherwise, we would have to say that the sun and water, the Earth’s distance from the sun, and so on, exist so that the seed may become a plant, which contradicts the fact that the sun existed long before organic life, just as water and the Earth’s distance from the sun did.

Instead of falling into this problem, we should think of the seed and the plant not as an implicit teleology but as a simple series of conditions, both internal and external, where there is an encounter that gives rise to the plant and subsequently the tree. Without teleology.

The problem with saying that the universe isn’t driven by fixed laws is that if the laws change, then there have to be meta-laws driving how the laws change, and if even the meta-laws change, meta-meta-laws driving how the meta-laws change (and ultimately you fall into infinite regress).

Exactly. So looking for determining laws doesn’t lead you to a ground, just skepticism. The OP is trying to find an alternative to an absolute ground in the idea of life-purpose, but that also implies a ground. But seeing that world as ordered doesn’t require any locating any fixed or ultimate grounding in laws or meta-laws. A world can be continually self-inventing without depending on any final originating contentful basis.

Without any ground, though, you cannot state anything at all about the world, and hence you get nowhere — everything can only be chaos.

But clearly everything isn’t chaos, we can make sense of the world, and because we can make sense of the world we can formulate physical laws around its operation as we observe it.

Even when we see how the universe has operated differently during different periods of time as we look outwards into space (and thus backwards through time), we can formulate laws with regard to how the universe’s operation has changed over time, with differing levels of energy density/temperature, metallicity, and so on.

So ultimately we still can formulate laws about the operation of the universe, even if the universe’s operation itself is not static.

We state things about the world all the time, by enacting distinctions basis on similarities and differences between what we encounter and what we have seen before. What we state is a kind of inquiry waiting to be tested against experience for its ability to anticipate events. Just because the world is always changing with respect to itself doesn’t mean that our statements can’t express relatively stable patterns that we can the. rely upon to navigate it. Practical use is the aim, not correspondence with what is really, really the case.

As Nagel and Husserl argue, physical mechanism and strict causal determinism are the products of abstractions that we construct and place over phenomena. When the determinist or physicalist says matter is meaningless or dead, they mean that it has the freedom to do nothing other than what its already assigned properties and attributes (either intrinsic or relational) determine it should do. But take note that since it is we who assign it these abstract properties, physical master is not in fact meaningless but imports its meaning from, that is, is parasitic on, our own assumed purposes.

That is to say, there is a presupposition of purpose behind the abstractions empiricists place over the world. As Husserl explains, concepts like identity, mechanical causation and physical lawfulness are idealizations that are MEANT to intend our own purposes into things. What makes the physical world dead and meaningless is precisely the idealizing abstractions which are generated by rule giving subjects such as we. Notions like identity and mechanism are the essence of purpose.

The question is, once we delve into the plumbing of how we construct intentional concepts like physicalism, can we even claim that what we are doing involves purpose, or is the concept of purpose itself just an abstraction that we construct? Doesn’t purpose imply a means-end relationship in which the logic is hermetically sealed within itself? Posing the idea of a law-governed meaningless universe assumes the rationalism of an overarching logic, a grand, even if atheistic, purposefulness of assigned terms in a pre-ordered relation.

Brook Ziporyn argues:

We call all things “things,” but not all things are the same or require the same type of treatment. The illegitimate step lies in assuming that there must be a single standard applied at all times, for all types of situations, regarding every type of subject matter. Why assume that there is any unity of this kind applying to the world, that all existence must form one single system with a single set of laws and rules applying to all of it? That too is part of the circular assumption of the sole universal authority of Reason—an assumption that, I would argue, ironically has deep roots precisely in the idea of God.The presupposition that the unity of Reason can be represented as a set of consistent and universally applicable laws with a positive content is a holdover precisely from raw monotheistic intuitions. It implicitly posits the God’s-eye point of view, a unified purposive consciousness and therefore a single-focused consciousness, which embraces everything at once and for which everything is a definite object, a definite tool, a definite work.

We are not really escaping the logic of rationalism if we reject the meaningless of mechanism but replace it with an explanation of living systems which imports from the former the idea of teleological purpose. All we’ve done by making that move is to expand the idea of purpose beyond human subjects to all of life. Saying the aim of life is self-preservation is relying on an abstraction, that of persisting self identity. Nietzsche was closer to the mark when he wrote:

“Darwin absurdly overestimates the influence of ‘external circumstances’; the essential thing about the life process is precisely the tremendous force which shapes, creates form from within, which utilizes and exploits ‘external circumstances’ … -that the new forms created from within are not shaped with a purpose in view, but that in the struggle of the parts, it won’t be long before a new form begins to relate to a partial usefulness, and then develops more and more completely according to how it is used.” “Everything that lives is exactly what shows most clearly that it does everything possible not to preserve itself but to become more …” (Last Notebooks)

People are accustomed to consider the goal (purposes. vocations, etc.) as the driving force, in keeping with a very ancient error; but it is merely the directing force; One has mistaken the helmsman for the steam. And not even always the helmsman, the directing force. Is the “goal,” the "purpose’’ not often enough a beautifying pretext, a self-deception of vanity after the event that does not want to acknowledge that the ship is following the current into which it has entered accidentally? that it “wills” to go that way because it must? that it has a direction, to be sure, but – no helmsman at all? We still need a critique of the concept of “purpose.”” (The Gay Science)

We can explain the maintenance over time of a consistent pattern of self-organization in living systems without having to resort to the concept of purpose if purpose imples a vector, pattern or way of being which identically produces itself
moment to moment and as such dictates the direction of events from below. We can instead explain the appearance of such seeming purposefulness on the basis of continually self-transforming relations which are neither strictly random (pure randomness itself implies and depends on the notion of causal determinism) nor fixed by mechanical laws.

Let’s say that I tell you that every moment of time produces a change in your experience of the world as a whole, such that in five moments, one has been transported to five different worlds. I would then caution that these transformations from one moment of time to the next are extremely subtle, such that all we notice is a seeming persistent self-identity.

If each moment produces its own ‘purpose’ in the sense that it introduces a new vector or way of meaning, it wouldn’t be accurate to claim that what we perceive in the fifth moment is enclosed within the same purpose as the first moment. We would have to say instead that we are left with the illusory appearance of an overarching purpose carrying through this span of time. We can argue that for everyday activities, it is as though such an overarching directionality were operating from below. I read you as wanting to claim that the enclosure is primary, escaping the subversive effects of time.

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