What is friendship - And how to solve loneliness?

I tend to deconstruct social and psychological behaviors into an attempt at finding the biological, cultural, and evolutionary reasons why they appeared, rather than adhering to manufactured, arbitrary ideas and ideologies surrounding them. We often only judge and think about behaviors in the context of very contemporary reasons, rather than taking a more objective look at ourselves. In many ways, most people are unable to see past the cultural influences, pointing towards very specific and emotionally biased constructs of why something is.

What is friendship? It is a question I’ve been thinking about in the context of how a large portion of society seems to suffer from loneliness, and why people have such a hard time finding new friends, especially when social media and the online world should produce the opposite conditions. How exactly is friendship established, and why does it not happen in the way society expects it to?

Philosophers from Aristotle to modern times discuss friendship more in terms of what they need and their sociological functions, without actually defining how they arise. In psychology, friendship has been studied for the consequences of mental health and the sensation of a good life, but still not why, although evolutionary and sociological studies make a point of the group’s formation of shared risk and shared knowledge.

But still not how they form, or why they actually form between specific individuals. Some point to shared interests and ideas, but friends can still form without sharing even that.

This is a reason why we have no real solution for the so-called loneliness epidemic. Politicians, philosophers, authors, journalists, etc., attempt to find solutions but seem to struggle as they haven’t really understood what forms relationships into actual friendships. Why don’t people become friends at work? Why do young people struggle with it in schools? Why don’t people actually connect online?

What I think is missing is the concept of projects.

I don’t mean projects as in work and necessities of society. Because society as we have it today has been formed around concepts that aren’t connected to the necessities of the people or the close communities around them. Many of us don’t work in a profession that is formed by the necessity of our close community. Even in occupations which do necessary work, the need has been outsourced to a system. We don’t construct houses, provide food, healthcare, or anything of the sort as a form of community; we do it because it’s an outsourced action. We’ve built our modern society on the outsourcing of our needs. Every vital part of our life is handled by a system; a company lets its booking service attach a handler to the job, and the needed help is handled by someone who are even dictated to not waste time connecting with the client. The job needs to be done, nothing else.

We’ve essentially outsourced ourselves to the point we’ve lost the necessary foundation of where friendships are formed.

Because the projects I’m speaking of are the ones found in more local and isolated communities. These projects do not have a monetary gain or exist within a detached individuality where one part gets the job done and the other something else. These projects extend their consequences beyond the project itself, a communal gain as a whole.

They’re formed on another kind of trust than just an exchange of labor or ideas. It’s a form of trust in the continuity of the communal spirit. The primary function of the project is not just to build the house for one member, but to build the necessary ground for the communal experience for all.

Here, many stop and roll their eyes thinking, “Oh, another argument for communism.” But this is where politics also fails as it’s just another form of systemic transformation of an underlying social need. While capitalism tries to make a system out of social investment (failing at it as well), communism tries to build a commune and social structures through systemic demands as well (equally failing at it).

No, the communal projects have to flourish from an honest individual place, a need for a solution to a problem that one seeks the trust of others to help them with. If this is handled by hiring an outsourced handler, the problem might be solved, but there’s an alienation between the hired hand and the one who hired them.

If the job is done by someone who doesn’t gain anything material by it, and who exists and lives in the proximity of the person they help, something else happens.

The world was once filled with such projects, and we’ve paved over most of them. Hyperindividuality has reshaped our values into optimization, a byproduct of capitalist goals of problem solving. Find the most efficient solution to a problem and, for the sake of personal gain. This is an antithesis to the projects I speak of. It’s the pavement, the asphalt, and concrete, being poured over a communal drive which were once at the center of our existence.


If we look further into the biological drives and evolutionary consequences of these projects, they have connective tissue into what happens to our psychology. As we connect to others through helping them without expectation of getting anything back, but experience the result of having helped them, and they form the same foundational drive to help back, causing a weave of actions and reactions within the community, the stronger this weave gets, the more we act as a new layer of consciousness.

It starts to look like the collective intelligence of hive insects and animals who aren’t acting individually, but as a pure collective. It’s as if we tap into a residue of an ancestral evolutionary trait of communal psychology, in which we extend our mind and body towards another individual, rather than just an exchange between two individual needs.

The result is that we are essentially extending our identity and individuality into becoming a part of a higher being. Two beings acting as one in the way two organs in the body, who are individual, form the basis for a higher being.

This is friendship.


This is what both capitalism and communism has been trying to tap into. The power of friendship for the drive to build something new, a project. But their failure is in trying to make a system out of something that requires an emotional and psychological obviousness in interdependence. They miss the foundational part in why people make projects together and why such projects work long term.

And these systems have become the dominant part of how we think about the world and ourselves. Hyperindividuality or a total abandonment of individuality.

Of course, these political ideas here can be adjusted to function as a system, but the point is not the political, but the effect it has had on our psychology.


We no longer view projects as communal necessities for ourselves and the community; we only view projects as “work,” as exchanges of material gains, or as a dictated direction that the individual had no part in deciding.

All agency of the individual has been lost, and all communal gains are artificial.

We no longer conduct projects that come naturally to us as being part of something or as an ask for help. Such projects become a pleading onto others to abandon the values and ideologies they live under.

Rather than it being natural to help each other within a community, we have to ask for help, and people are often retreating from helping others. Because without the material gain or a sense of exchange, we are terrified. We view it as someone taking advantage of us, someone bypassing the monetary exchange.

The value of the project becomes something alien to us. Because we are not aware of the positive psychological effect it has on us.


And it is this effect that is forming friendships. Through these projects of untold exchange values, we start to extend ourselves into the other. The problem-solving mechanics that become a back-and-forth without demand of equal exchange values or arbitrary monetary values of the exchange, we get lost in the action and reaction.

It becomes an antithesis to the cycle of violence. Equally in its confusion of who started it, who made it worse, what action was the worst, etc. Friendship causes the same confusion in the opposite positive way. You start to get lost in who did what and what was the most good and what was the worth, things… just are.


If war is the reason we have cycles of violence, then naturally appearing projects is the reason we have friendships.

If a community is built around such naturally occurring projects in which people help each other for the sake of stability of the community, then strong friendships are born out of it.


Look at school and education.

Did you and your best friend become friends because school forced you to work together on a project? No, that was never the actual project. You probably formed an unseen project underneath, where you helped each other beyond the demand of school. As this progressed, either in play or in other things like sport and hobbies, you got lost in the exchange. It was no longer part of society’s (the school’s) enforcement of a project, but a natural project which formed out of your own individual needs and then weaved together into you and your friend becoming a collective organism.


So what about the loneliness epidemic?

With the political ideologies and economical models forming how we think about life and work, with the outsourcing of projects into unnatural behaviors (compared to how they usually grew naturally), with the inability to form stability in communal projects online and rather alienate us more with conflict-focused algorithms of social media—we have been conditioned to not form projects that lead to friendships anymore.

We are psychologically unable to form the trust needed within non-exchange projects to form strong friendship bonds to the point of elevating ourselves to a collective being. And so, we retreat into the comfort of antisocial behavior.

If the systems of society remove the foundation of what causes friendships to form, then all we have left are the systems themselves. We become a cog in that system, and it becomes a system which benefits no one.


It also makes us unable to value projects aimed to solve major problems of the world. Even facing something like climate change, even as we are seeing the first major effects of them right now, do we form projects to solve it? Because we aren’t making any friends.

Because it is out of friendship we form projects to solve such problems. And it’s because of such problems we need friendship.


The solution would be to start finding local projects. Within the closest people around. Then expand. Help someone, but don’t expect anything back. You do it for the sake of the two of you as a whole, not yourself or just the other person. The longer the two of you do it, the more likely it is that you form a friendship.

Then extend it. What else is there to do in the neighborhood? Then extend it further, what problems need to be solved in the larger community?

It starts with the small projects, naturally arising, into friendship between a few. Then friendship with more people. Not all have to be friends, not all function as friends, but projects build friendships. And friendships build projects.

This may not entirely solve the loneliness epidemic, but it identifies a missing condition of society; the disappearance of organic communal projects through which trust, dependence, and friendship can naturally form. And further points towards how important friendship is in the equation of solving many of the world’s worst problems right now.

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Excellent OP ! I love the topic and you approach it in depth and with insight. I hope to say more later ( after some sleep), but I at least wanted to give this expression the positive feedback it deserves.

Maybe I’ll risk one sleep-deprived comment. It’s a joy for us to give to others. At least a certain kind of giving rings a bell in our soul.

Also, I used to be in a various bands with musicians who were not coincidentally my best friends at the time. We wrote original songs. You might say that we all expanded our local narcissisms ( me-me-me) to a healthier and far more generous and curious-about-others group narcissism (us-us-us). The dream wasn’t fame or money —those we’d take them if offered — but to make great music. So we aspired together toward something bigger than the group.

This is just an example. I could imagine a idealistic collective building a house together, with the same high feeling and community. Or another example: I have worked “front of house” in various restaurants, and the ideal situation is a genuine affection and trust between everyone working that night. In this ideal situation, you pay your bills while also enjoying a system of friendships that manifest themselves in busy kindnesses that don’t keep score — or aren’t worried and fragile enough to bother to keep score exactly. Weirdly it’s the formal personal responsibility to this or that table that allows for generosity. I don’t “have” to pre-bus this table for my friend, but I want to, and I do.

Loneliness increased as more people began using the internet, which, in turn, began providing content that increasingly caught people’s attention. Online gaming, chat apps, pornography, Youtube, TikTok, AI-companions etc.

Pedestrians, passengers, visitors in bars or cafes or school yards etc are looking at their screens, not at each other. Hence loneliness.

What is friendship? Primarily a function of one’s interest to increase fitness and chances of survival. Loneliness, on the other hand, can feel life threatening. Hence the suffering.

A friend’s betrayal hurts more than being betrayed by a foe or stranger. Some of the most violent crimes are committed by people who know each other well, like friends.

But mostly it’s good to have friends, at least a few of them, at a distance. I’m part of a small group of friends. We learned to know each other before our lives were changed by different work and family lives. Yet we’ve stayed in touch, more or less for the sake of staying in touch. It’s nice to meet them once in a while, drink beer, discuss life events and so on. That’s basically it.

In case of a crisis situation, I suppose (or hope) we will help each other. But friendships are fragile, and there’s a bunch of situations in which they get corrupted or dissolved.

Is there really a loneliness epidemic?

I do think if people are depressed (which often results is self-directed aloneness) a reasonable pathway out is volunteering and helping others. I agree with your communitarian thrust.

The only difference I’ve noticed amongst some younger folk to the younger folk of my time (and admittedly a small sample) is people are more likely to focus on self rather than external contributions. Perhaps the 1970’s Me Generation’s children have taken things a step further into entitlement and identity politics. But that’s probably exactly what an old cunt like me might think.

A very good topic, which evokes generally positive emotions after reading your text.

I consider myself one of those who shares the desire for friendship. However, while reading your text, I also had many objections, a desire to dig deeper and understand. But I wouldn’t want to write only criticism; instead, I would suggest we discuss your question in a friendly manner.

Fundamentally, I think (as I concluded from the text), you and I share a common desire for friendship as such. This is a very interesting premise that I would like to explore.

Why do I strive for friendship rather than enmity? Is there a biological, anthropological, or evolutionary component to this? Is it simply a sociocultural need? Or do we need a friend at an organic level?

Expanding on the answers to these questions could fill entire volumes of interdisciplinary literature. A kind of attempt to explore the “genialogy of friendship.” But in my view, this isn’t the only method of cognition, but rather one more characteristic of substantialism. “What is the first cause?” is a classic question. The questioner tends to believe that by answering this question, they will get closer to the truth.

But if we shift the ontological lens from “substantialism” to another—for example, “dynamism” or “onto-cubism” (as proposed by @j_j ), then we are confronted not with the essence of a person who requires a friend by nature or origin, but with a deeply scarred, multifaceted existence. By consistently removing the scars (to see what lies beneath), we destroy the very object of our study.

Hence, in approaching this study, I would abandon genealogy. Instead, we can embark on this journey with the assumption: “Some of us need a friend” or “I need a friend.” That’s all.

Taking this statement as a starting point, there’s no longer any need to blame socialism, capitalism, or any other -ism for everything going wrong. After all, we’ve now abandoned the idea of ​​how things “should be.”

Perhaps the current state of affairs, the way societies are structured today, does create all the conditions for the absence of friendship. But since it’s absent and we’re still alive, isn’t that a sign that it’s not so essential for us?

On the other hand, I certainly feel my own need for a friend (though I don’t know the nature of this need). Can I fulfill this need in the current world? For now, I still can—and that’s a good thing. The main thing is that my friend doesn’t turn out to be a philosopher or a psychologist =)))

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Here’s my friendly advice: stop being sleep-deprived! And if you invert this into a selfish premise: I see what you’re capable of when you’re sleep-deprived, but I’m just curious to see what you’re capable of when you’re well-rested!

Don’t you think depression is greatly overrated? Isn’t it a modern disease?

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On this forum, you get both. My evening posts are me when I am fresh. I am lucky that I can usually get at least 8 hours of sleep. My job is currently asynchronous, which supports my night-owl tendencies.

Good point. I mean I’m not against exploring possible social causes, but finally it is this or that lonely person. World-blaming ideologies can be part of the problem. Doom scrolling and then over-intellectualizing an ancient vulnerability.

I would not paradoxically preach that we “should” abandon fretting over what the world should be, but for me it was a helpful transformation. I gave up theorizing about how to fix the world. The world is the god of a brown polluted river. This is the wasteland paradise that we find ourselves thrown into. It’s here or nowhere that we will live a beautiful life. And that beauty will be torn and stained. Life is also horror and mundane suffering. But I think many of us ( won’t say all ) can find enough joy and community in this brown water to be glad to be given still more time in it.

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Overrated? Or did you mean over-reported? I don’t have the expertise to answer this. I’m not sure how we would know. It is not a modern phenomenon, as the extraordinary study of depression The Noonday Demon by Andrew Solomon shows us. He also takes a trans cultural look at the illness. I do think Western culture is more attuned to depression, and that it is more widely reported because it is better understood. Mental illness used to be seen as a character flaw or as malingering. Still is by some.

Isn’t it because Western culture is so good at dealing with depression that it invented the disease itself?

Actually, that’s a joke. I’m not a psychiatrist, and if I were, I probably wouldn’t find a better way to describe “not wanting to do anything” than by calling it depression.

As a layman, I find it much easier to describe this behavior as “the migraine of a spoiled person.” Of course, those who research this issue will tear me to pieces for such statements. But here’s what I’ve noticed: is the low incidence of depression in developing countries simply because it’s poorly studied there, or is it simply a matter of moving or dying?

I think you probably need to learn more about depression. People are pretty ignorant about mental ill health, even today. The book I mentioned addresses all of this. Remember too that in many countries people with mental illness are still locked away or jailed, and their needs are often poorly understood. They are not counted as ill or even as people.

I’ve noticed that I’m often forced to discuss depression with someone, even though I’m not well-versed in the subject.

But listen to this: when discussing these issues, I like to maintain a certain “primal brutality” and “masculinity.” I also like to say things like, “You’re just whiners.” If I read about depression, I’ll lose my uniqueness and be forced to ooh and aah just like everyone else…

Thanks for the offer, of course. I’ll think about it.

I’ve got to say I really enjoyed reading this. Well, it was long enough to qualify as a minor construction project, but anyway, which interesting idea isn’t? It was worth it, though.

I think you’re asking a question that doesn’t get enough attention. Your emphasis on projects also resonated with me. Coincidentally, I’ve been tied up over the past few weeks working on some specimens with some friends, and looking back, I don’t think the friendship grew because we shared a bench; it’s maybe because we kept solving little problems together and helping each other without keeping scores. Before long, we had our own little ecosystem of inside jokes and mutual trust.

The only place I’d gently push back is that I wonder if projects are the seed of the friendship or simply very fertile soil. Because to me, they seem to be exceptionally good at creating the conditions in which friendship can grow, but perhaps the friendship is what eventually takes on a life of its own.

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Seems like this has been translated from another language, so perhaps the meaning has been changed, but it sounds like you’re saying you’d prefer to hold onto old-fashioned prejudice even if this means you come over as a prick. :wink:

That’s right. This isn’t a translation error. This is truly my philosophical position on certain issues. And it has its own justification. It’s important not to confuse this with trolling or challenging. It’s a test of boundaries. I genuinely don’t know what “is” and what might have been invented to fit the discourse… (and here, by the way, scientific research isn’t sufficient proof either, since they research within specific paradigms).

So when I ask about something, I try to say, “Hey, buddy, maybe it’s not so clear-cut?” And it’s not because I’m some kind of villain or a troll. It’s a philosophical question. If we stop asking them, we’ll become too convenient.

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Not sure that’s a philosophical position; it sounds more like a disposition dressed up as a virtue. I’m not one to think of many people as trolls, and I don’t much care what people believe, I’m more interested in why they believe it. But have you ever stopped to think that some lines of questioning are not really an inquiry so much as a form of avoidance?

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I’d even add: questions aren’t just explanations or a form of evasion. They’re a way of being for many people.

The ruler says: you must A, B, C. The individual (a true individual, not a repeater of discourse) asks: Why must it be this way and not another?

And it’s from this doubt that everything else begins. Perhaps, to be happy, humanity didn’t have to look beyond the horizon, but rather sit in its cave, occupying its position on the food chain. But it did. And so it always goes on, whether we like it or not.

See my reply to the thread’s author; there’s a lot written there on this very topic (if you’re interested). That’s why I affirm for myself (and no one else, mind you) – I want to ask questions. If asking questions requires, among other things, parting with comfort, community, or enduring difficulties, so be it. But I don’t like ready-made answers. And that’s a philosophical position.

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Is’t this a commonplace position, and most people, including me, would subscribe to it. But you must also be aware that many people also use doubt and questioning as a convenient tool to avoid commitment and responsibility, on the grounds that if an issue can be said not to be resolved, they do not need to commit to anything. In other words, there is a difference between scepticism and evasion.

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This could be a rather interesting starting point for a very profound discussion.

I would say that perhaps for this very reason there shouldn’t be too many philosophers. Otherwise, instead of taking action, we’ll simply become immersed in endless reflection on everything. For the same reason, there shouldn’t be too much philosophizing in a person’s life.

But something else is also important here. A very subtle point. What happens when philosophical tools of criticism fall into the hands of those unfamiliar with ethics? This simply becomes a means of manipulation and the ruin of any well-intentioned system. On the other hand, is a system that collapses at the slightest breath of wind really worthwhile?

It seems we’ve strayed too far from the opening text. At the same time, the ability to distract yourself, step away, and argue while remaining human—this is a wonderful foundation for any friendship!

So, returning to my answer to the main question: is individualism or socialism to blame? Friendship is simply a shared desire.

I’m very curious about the analysis paralysis problem faced by people who “over-intellectualise” and avoid decisions and actually live. Perhaps we’ve all met people like this before.

Sure, it was an interesting digression.

Not sure I have anything interesting to say about friendship. I know it when I have it, and I’ve been lucky with my friends. I’ve not really witnessed a loneliness epidemic or a widespread problem with friendship, so I’m not in a position to look for blame.

I don’t think internet and screens are the cause; they’re a catalyst. The algorithms are tuned to focus an already established hyper-individuality into the extreme. We’ve seen a shift since the 80s, but a rapid increase over the period social media algorithms started dominating how the internet is used. Since they’re tuned to focus on conflict over positive connections and subjects, they increase the exposure to conflicting views of the most vile kind, and enforce the conviction that you alone are morally superior. Dividing groups further, but even more so individuals into verifying their feelings of being alone in the world.

Imagine if the algorithms were the opposite. Connecting people through positive interactions, embracing naturally arising projects. In that case, I believe the opposite would happen: the algorithms would work in favor of what forms friendships and positive progress.

It’s why I think social media companies should be outlawed, and a globally organized, globally funded social media system should be formed, with changed algorithms, without ads, and made for the people as an actual online town square, not whatever fantasy current tech CEOs propose. UN based, run by everyone, open source. No tech company involved, no abusive algorithms, true neutral grounds shaped by an algorithm promoting positive interactions over negative.

It may sound like some utopia concept of social media, but we’re already seeing how nations ban social media for children in an attempt to fight back against these algorithms. The step isn’t far off to put into law the removal of the algorithms all-together. And with that comes the need for people to have an alternative social media platform, as it’s so built into people’s lives today.

Not in the sense of data of being alone physically. But the type of loneliness that is of an actual psychological negative to people is being alone even if people are around, which has some data supporting it. This connects more to what I’m saying about how the reduction and lack of naturally arising projects between people in smaller groups and communities stem from how we’ve outsourced everything that previously were communal problems to solve.

We have no meeting grounds or dynamics to form bonds and are gathered in social groups with people in a way that’s not actually forming bonds of friendship, but merely dependencies and transactions, making us have connections, but no deeper actual friendships.

It’s important to look at current generations as the consequence of decisions in the past. This is why I touched on how the major ideologies of our modern era have formed a simulation of our basic social needs and structures and how they’ve shaped the world views of current generations. The hyper-individualized ideology of most in the west didn’t just come from nowhere; they reflect the machine, gears and software that society runs on and they lag behind decades after the peak, forming the internal drives and psychology of people.

Hyper-individualization is a capitalist consequence; it emulates the same mechanics and behavior; Investments, transactions, corporate structures, efficiency optimizations. People run their lives in capitalist ways. Why do you think that young people today value gaining capital over social bonds? Why are influencers telling others to “get rid of the friends who don’t elevate your value”? Why are young people “lookmaxing”?

Everything is capital investment and gain, not just in monetary ways, but social, psychological, ideas and ideological.

Marx touched upon the alienation in capitalism and how it produced a distance between the work and the product, and labor and the worker. He touched upon the alienation between people, but that’s the primary thing happening now.

An alienation between people due to the shifting psychology brought on by the ideologies running the world.

And this alienation causes loneliness as it is reducing friends to shareholders, employees, investors, investments in your life, not actual friends.

When projects aren’t naturally arising, but rather a planned strategy for self-elevation in a competitive environment, then they do not form bonds of friendship, but of competition and alienation even between what on the surface looks like friendship.

Therefore, true friendship requires naturally arising projects; the problem solving and collaborative work that rise out of locally shared needs. Without transactions or capital gains involved, no higher ideological demand to do something, but from the ground up bonding over a shared project that shapes an interaction beyond mere selfish gains. With the bond established when there’s no information left of who did what, when or how much, only a status quo of interaction that is naturally flowing, like two organs in a body, not competing, but working together in sync.

We are pack animals, we are social animals, so there’s a biological foundation for it. While we can conclude there being underlying driving forces, just like with love, there’s still not a model for how we form friendship.

We’re mostly just accepting that a friendship just happened; we’re never really deconstructing why we form friendships. We can see why some friendships last and work, but how did those conditions arise?

That’s what I attempted to find here.

Because if we can identify that, then for those who are afflicted by loneliness, it might form a foundational strategy to come out of it and find actual friends.

It really doesn’t matter if there’s an epidemic of loneliness or not; it’s a fact that loneliness, especially among people who still have people around them, but feel alone (which is the real form of loneliness), is a dangerous condition (WHO have statistics that connect around 850,000 deaths a year to loneliness). So there’s a need for a strategy to help those in such conditions to come out of it. Not to mention older people and the statistics of what they regret the most on their death beds being that of failing friends, being lonely, and not having many friends in life.

The inclusion of those into my thesis is to show the cause of loneliness in our modern time. If you look above at the answer I gave to @Tom_Storm about how young people behave today, that’s a consequence of ideologies that drive our collective psychology.

And I brought those up because they’ve overridden the need for naturally arising projects. Since we outsource both collective drives and local projects, we’ve become alienated through losing the ground we formed friendships through. And instead we’ve replaced such interactions with transactional actions and outsourced collective reasons to interact.

Being alive and living well aren’t equal, though? I don’t think this is merely about survival, but about finding a good life and help others who do not have a good life find strategies to find it. I don’t think we can conclude that life right now has found its best form as a society; we’re still evolving what the best society to live in is.

I also don’t think we can look at our own situation and conclude life is good for all. I think there’s some moral drive to want others to have a good life when we recognize them not having it, especially if we are happy ourselves.

What I recognize is that people suffer from loneliness and while I have my share of friends, others don’t. And what I see the most is that they try to find friends and fail, because we don’t have a good idea of how friendships are actually formed. We took it for granted, and paved over that process with simulations. Only way to heal this is to recognize how and why friendships are formed.

Yes, these are the projects I mean. The naturally occurring problem solving projects that keep happening in life and which we share a burden with another for efficient problem solving without tracking a transactional score. The bonds and connections and shared thinking that appears from that is real actual friendship, because it forms an elevated collective organism in which you act and live together in a bond that is automatic in function.

It’s the reason why people can’t really discern why they are friends. They just know it works. Because the projects grew them together.

That’s why I think when we talk to or about people who have a hard time finding friends, we usually fail to give them the right tools for it. We tell them to go out and meet people, “do something” but nothing of that has a clear path to friendship.

To instead tell them to start projects, to solve problems with others is better. It can get them into the process of actually forming true friendship with someone.

You have a point, but I also have a hard time seeing friendship forming outside of it. Friendship usually won’t form from nothing and static causes seem artificial in result.

I think it’s the process of the shared projects that forms the neural connections necessary for deeper friendship. And as I mentioned, when I say projects they’re a term for shared problem solving or things done together that requires some form of problem solving. It doesn’t need to be big or large things, it can be smaller things, but the overarching thing is solving problems for a goal without transaction as part of that goal.

Lighting the grill or camp fire, having trouble with damp wood becomes such a project; collaboration ideas, attempts etc.

While such situations could generate a fight as well, blaming each other for bad ideas, it’s when it doesn’t, when the two people work together that friendships forms.

So, I’m not saying projects automatically makes people friends, but rather that projects in which people sync up in behavior that isn’t transactional, is what produces the friendship.

It might be evolutionary, how our pack produced optimal subgroups to solve problems.