The Law of Personal Interest, and the Development of Civilization

Previously, I published a post on the positive role of the law of self-interest in a market economy.
In this post, I want to highlight another, much broader sphere of the social process in which, in my view, the aforementioned law plays an extremely significant positive role. This is the process of civilization’s development.

In primitive society, a person was concerned first and foremost with survival.

To survive, they had to provide themselves above all with food, clothing, shelter, and safety.

At first, people obtained food by gathering and by catching or hunting small and weak animals.

Clothing was either nonexistent or consisted of primitive coverings made from animal skins.

Shelter meant caves.

Safety meant avoiding predators and fleeing from them.

Gradually, using reason and guided by the same striving to live — by personal interest — human beings began to make tools for themselves.

For work, they made stone scrapers, knives, and axes.

For protection against wild animals, as well as for hunting, they made spears with stone or bone tips and sometimes used fire.

For clothing, they made needles from fish bones in order to sew skins together.

This was already the beginning of progress.

Then people gradually realized that it was often better to hunt, defend themselves against predators, and generally survive by uniting with others.

Within such associations — families, clans, tribes — social relations and social interests arose.

But at their foundation lay not merely some idealistic desire to live together because it was more pleasant.

At first, to a much greater extent, there was the personal interest already mentioned above — the survival of each individual member of the group or tribe.

This was probably also supported by the natural maternal instinct to protect one’s children, which I, incidentally, also regard as a personal parental — or maternal — interest.

Within the emerging social relations inside the tribe, the obligation to observe the common interests of the tribe was likewise not devoid of personal interest.

Violation of those common interests could lead to punishment, and often even death.

When wars began between tribes, threatening people’s lives and freedom — that is, the personal interests of the members of those tribes — weapons were improved.

Bows, arrows, spears, and shields appeared.

Leaving caves and seeking a more comfortable life, people began to build artificial dwellings: dugouts, covered shelters, huts.

The necessary tools were also improved.

Later, with the emergence of crafts, the craftsman was motivated not simply by the desire to increase the quantity of goods produced, but by the desire to earn more from selling them.

The essence remained the same — benefit.

For this purpose, the craftsman invented and improved tools and began creating various devices and the simplest machines.

Similar processes took place in agriculture, with the same goal: to provide oneself and one’s family with enough food and, in addition, to earn money by selling agricultural products.

This stimulated the appearance of shovels, primitive plows, plows, carts, wagons, and so on.

This was a continuation of the development of civilization.

And the original driving force behind that development was precisely personal interest and personal benefit.

The conquest of foreign lands, countries, territories, and peoples was driven by the personal interests of the conquerors — leaders, military commanders, kings, tsars, ruling elites, and warriors — in enriching themselves and increasing their wealth and territories.

At the same time, weapons were invented and improved, fortresses were built, and throwing and battering devices were developed.

Later came cannons, cannonballs, gunpowder, and so on.

Military organization was improved.

Military science emerged.

Science also emerged in industry.

In turn, the appearance of industrial workshops and enterprises was driven by the desire of their owners to obtain ever greater benefit from expanding production and introducing new machines, equipment, and technologies.

All of this was the development of civilization.

And it was driven first and foremost by personal interest and, above all, by people’s personal material benefit.

The social relations and common interests that arose in the process were, in essence, combined homogeneous personal interests:

separately, the interests of employers;

and separately, the interests of their workers.

This gave rise to confrontation and struggle between these interests.

Classes emerged.

And this struggle, like many other forms of struggle, also moved progress forward.

Among other things, it developed social, political, and state structures.

The ideas of creating republics, parliaments, parties, and trade unions represented the desire to unite similar personal interests of broad masses of people in order to protect themselves and their interests from the violence of those in power — kings, nobles, capitalists, and other powerful people.

This was the development of political and state systems, and therefore another part of the development and movement of civilization.

In the modern world, the overwhelming number of new inventions and discoveries in science, technology, and production are often initially driven by the personal creative interest of their authors and, in parallel, by their personal material benefit.

Even such spheres as the arts and culture, besides purely aesthetic and spiritual goals, often — and increasingly — also involve a considerable material interest: the desire of authors to sell their creations and skills.

This includes beautiful and refined dishes, furniture, paintings, sculptures, architecture, music, songs, performances, books, films, and so on.

All of this is part of the development of civilization.

And here too, to a very large extent, the basis is, if not purely personal benefit, then in any case personal interest.

How many more examples are needed to become convinced that the development of civilization rests upon the personal interest and personal benefit of each person striving to improve their living conditions?

And this is true among all peoples, in all countries and continents, and at all times.

It must also be said, however, that while moving civilization forward, the struggle of personal interests is simultaneously a source of suffering and misfortune caused by that struggle:

conflicts, clashes, uprisings, battles, wars, as well as theft and robbery by the poor from the wealthy and by the wealthy from the poor.

But that is a separate subject.

In this chapter, the author has in fact had to sketch, very briefly, almost the entire history of the development of civilization.

Of course, an enormous amount has been written on this subject, and in far better and more accomplished form.

But I had to repeat this, even if imperfectly, in order to use the history of civilization as an example to show that the Law of Personal Interest and Personal Gain played a very significant, if not decisive, role in its development, the formula for which has already been cited and substantiated repeatedly in previous chapters:
“Most people, in most situations, are guided by personal interest , personal gain.”

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I think it is more nuanced than that- personal interest and personal gain is part of our overall guidance and motivation- but there are other motivations, and very often other motives are of more priority than personal gain and interest.
As a species humans thrive because of cooperation- and it is still so today- we are probably most social creatures of all living beings on the planet, we are very tribal and it is common for people to make sacrifices for a “greater good”- though “greater good” is very often skilled manipulation, nevertheless- in a conflict and battles if the primary motivation was personal interest I would expect most soldiers to flee, and there would be no heroes,
and people would not make personal sacrifices for their families or friends. What we do is very often for the others, and what would even succes and glory mean if there was no one to observe it?

Historians seem to describe human civilization as a series of jumps. Mr. Harari identifies a few: Cognitive revolution, Agricultural revolution, Scientific revolution, Industrial revolution, Computer revolution and now the AI revolution. There’s good reason to ascribe all of these jumps to personal interest. We wanted to secure our food supply, we wanted to be safe, we wanted to improve work efficiency, we wanted to figure out how the world works … all are personal interests.

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But why do you say “We wanted”?
If its just personal gain, then it would be: “I want”.

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Perhaps we all wanted the same thing (you mentioned cooperation) :thinking:

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@Erazmo worth mentioning are the failure of RCT (rational choice theory) in economics and that psychologists like the late Kahneman are bagging Nobels in economics.

The whole point is that people come together in communities based on the same interests. In other words, a shared interest is shared precisely because people with the same personal interests have come together, and that is when cooperation arises among them. And those people whose interests differ from thtse they come together in other communities based on the same principle. (Take a look at my post “The Law of Personal Interests in Politics” in the Political Philosophy category.)

“In conflicts and battles, if personal interests were the main motive, I would expect most soldiers to flee,”

1). Aren’t there examples of this in history?

But history also tells us what happened to those who fled: they were either captured and killed by the enemy, or taken prisoner; or they were executed by their own side for treason, which is far worse than fighting and winning. And if one must die, it is better to die with honor than in disgrace. And this, too, is a personal interest that unites those who do not flee, because they already know from experience that fleeing is far worse—again, from the perspective of their own interests.

2). “But people don’t make personal sacrifices for the sake of their families or friends.”

How many more times do I have to tell that the interests of one’s family—especially one’s children—are personal interests!!!

3). “What we do, we very often do for the sake of others.”

Yes, “often,” but no more often than for ourselves.

4). “But there are other motives, and very often other motives take precedence over personal gain and interest.”

The law of self-interest refers to “MOST SITUATIONS”

So, “there are other motives,” and they do occur “often,” but not in “most situations.”

Points 2), 3), and 4) have already been discussed more than once in my previous posts, which you could read—and then most of your objections would be resolve

Really? Have you psychically channeled their motivations? Actually, hunter-gatherers had plenty of leisure time. They were also longer-lived and healthier than (early) civilized people. They were taller and more robust (according to the physical record). WE can assume the reasons were a healthier diet (most agricultural people had largely mono-crop diets) and less disease (increased population density spread infectious disease).

So civilization, far from advancing the “personal interest” of most individuals, actually diminished their well-being. Indeed, many of them were slaves.

Of course it is true that the well-being of kings and rulers may have been enhanced.

It is also true that people are concerned with their personal interest. Who would think otherwise? Are story-tellers enhancing their personal interest? Or are they entertaining their companions? Are priests and ministers enhancing their personal interests? Or are they ministering to their congregations? Are teachers (many of whom could earn more money in other professions) enhancing their personal interest?

IN addition, where does this theory get us? Does it have any explanatory value? Even modern economists are abandoning it, because other approaches make more accurate predictions. What attracts you to this relatively valueless theory? Even if it is correct (which it isn’t), who cares?

@Ekrub
1. “So, civilization did not in any way serve the ‘personal interests’ of the majority of people.”

I’m sorry, but it seems you completely misunderstood the main point of the topic and, on top of that, turned it upside down. Where in the text did you see me write that civilization served people’s personal interests? Can’t you see—practically every paragraph emphasizes that personal interest drove the development of civilization, not the other way around. And only later did the more advanced state of civilization allow people to better satisfy their needs. But that’s another matter.

2 “In fact, hunter-gatherers had a lot of free time. They also lived longer and were healthier than (early) civilized people. They were taller and stronger (according to physical data).”

What does it matter that people were taller, stronger, lived longer, and were healthier? And then infectious diseases appeared. According to you, does that mean civilization developed from better to worse, or what?

3. And how, in your opinion, does this relate to the development of civilization?

“Do storytellers promote their own personal interests? Do they entertain their peers? Do priests and clergy promote their own personal interests? Do they serve their parishioners? Do teachers (many of whom could earn more money in other professions) promote their own personal interests?”

And if you want to hear my take on whether there’s a personal, self-serving, or selfless interest at play here, I’ll tell you that it could be either—depending on the true motivation behind the actions of the students

4. “Furthermore, where does this theory lead us? Does it have any explanatory value?”

I have already published 5 posts in this category and another 4 in other categories, where I demonstrate this explanatory value using numerous examples from various social spheres. If you’re truly interested in the questions raised, I suggest you take the time to familiarize yourself with them; then we’ll be able to discuss them in more detail. In particular, the post on the Law of Self-Interest in economics, in my view, unquestionably explains the driving force behind this law in a capitalist economy. It explains the reason for the collapse of the socialist economy. Take the example of China, where—even with the Communist Party in power—private enterprise was permitted. And China immediately “leaped” forward by leaps and bounds. In the section on corruption, there are examples of both the explanatory and predictive effects of the Law. This includes the recent corruption scandals in health insurance USA as a fresh example.

And this theory leads to the recognition and understanding of one of the strongest motivations of human existence.

5. “Even if it’s correct (which it isn’t), who cares?”

It may be of interest to anyone who wants to understand the primary motivation behind people’s behavior in various spheres of human existence. And also, to a significant extent, to predict that behavior.

Regarding the accuracy of “(but that’s not true)”: see point 4 above—there I support my position with examples from many real-life situations.
And what is your basis for your “(but that’s not true)”? You can take my arguments from this topic alone (not to mention the other topics mentioned above) and present your counterarguments . Then it won’t just be an empty claim —“ (but that’s not true).”

Since you ask:

Along with almost everything else in your OP.

Everyone knows that people have “personal interests” and often try to further them. So what? Why post about it as if it is some novel or significant idea?

In addition, this notion of “personal interest” being a driving force in human development flies in the fact of modern evolutionary theory. Our genetic predisposition is to promote the spread of our genes, not our personal interests.