Logic of fact and opinion, the foundations for reasoning

Where choosing is defined in terms of spontaneity, in terms of that a decision can turn out one way or another in the moment that the decision is made. And subjective means, identified with a chosen opinion, and objective means, identified with a model of it.

So then we get the logic that: What is subjective, creates what is objective, by decision.

As for example, the baby (objective), was born from love (subjective). Or, God (subjective), created the earth (objective).

You can also choose different subjective opinions, that the baby was not born from love, and that God did not create the earth. But the facts then still remain that the baby, and the earth were a result of decisions made, and it is then a matter of opinion in what spirit the decisions were made.

Creationism is really just the concept of “choosing” writ large over reality in it’s entirety. The entire universe is chosen. Things that are in the universe currently are possible, meaning there were the possibilities for it to be, or for it not to be, and the decision turned out that it came to be.

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Choices do indeed produce results of the type you seem to be interested in. For example x might want to make a golden stool. y years later … a golden stool. We can see the story of how the golden stool came to be. It kicks off in x’s brain and ends up in the world of furniture.

I didn’t get it.

Can you please elaborate? I’m really interested in your example.

Iteresting post,

Do you think our understanding of subjects are accurate, or objects for that matter ? Much of what we believe and understand is based on illusion. Even science is limited to our senses and comprehension.

There are always also important subjects and objects missing. It seems we have more clues and hunches about certain things as a rule.

What are babies, what is God, what is love ? On deep refelction many of these things we don’t know nearly as well as we think we do, though having half an understanding helps, as long as we don’t think we have a hold on something even as simple as a baby.

Lastly, from the above paragraph, can we also confuse subject for object ?

There’s an x. He wants a gold stool. He gets the gold stool. Frame it within the OP.

People generally still have the right understanding of fact and opinion on an intuitive level. Everyone can obtain a fact, and express an opinion.

However on the intellectual level, the understanding of subjectivity is extremely marginalized. This is because people are under psychological pressure to do their best, which causes them to conceive of choosing in terms of selection of options. But the concept of subjectivity can only function with choosing defined in terms of spontaneity. So the psychological pressure to do their best occasions people not having a functioning concept of subjectivity anymore.

As like this:

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Lol, okay,

So what I mean, subject God apparently created the universe, object.

The Aborigonies believed their ancestors dreamed the universe into existance. Science claim the same, our mind create our surroundings..

So subject man, created the, object, universe or maybe God, or maybe there’s a balance or a two directional symbiosis ?

So god is no more than an opinion…

I think the correct interpretation is that the name God is no more than an opinion. Same as opinions that identify fear, love, are rather pathetic words.

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If “subjective creates objective by decision” is the master-logic, then God just is an opinion that supposedly decided the universe into being. You put god at the opposite extreme to facts.

Yes that is right. But God is only identified with an opinion, the opinion is not the same as God, obviously.

he’s not a fact, unless you renege on the whole structure.

Which might be a good idea.

You can see the difference between the word fear, and the emotion which it expresses?

Isn’t God a concept? Opinion on God would be just personal views or thoughts on what you think about God. Your thought on God is not God.

Of course you can make up concepts provided they are supplied with matching definition, human activity examples and arguments for them.

Isn’t concept making on existences, God and the world a part of philosophical process?

The name God is a subjective expression, same like the words fear, love, beautiful etc. You too can distinguish the word fear from the emotion fear itself?

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Yes, good point. I can imagine you can. You can whisper or utter to yourself “Oh my God” with no idea of the concept, definition or meaning of the word, when faced with some bizarre situation or events in reality.

What significance that expression would be for the foundation of reasoning?

What do you mean because subjectivity is everywhere in reasoning. Obviously for doing relationships, politics, and religion, it is required to understand how subjectivity works.

I agree subjectivity is the foundation of reasoning. However, when you are making the subject expression such as “oh my God” faced with some events or situations in reality, does that expression also relates to reasoning? Or would it be just a habitual utterance with no relation to reasoning at all?

You could have uttered something else, but why “oh my God”? Does it imply the concept or name of God could be part of your soul, mind or foundation of your action, expression or even reasoning?

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The expression “oh my God” is part of reasoning, the subjective part of it. I don’t see what you are getting at.

Is the concept of subjectivity inate ? How do animals reason ? Does the concept of subjectivity only appear when we focus on it or is it more subconscious ?

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