Yes I see it as time is a way to describe something happening.
In the world where no human lives, there are no talks, no thoughts and no perception of time. There is no time.
I think nature would disagree with you. If no humans exist then human time would not exist. Time and human time are not the same thing.
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Nature has no mind or will to agree or disagree. It just exists quietly with no words.
I would not say nature is quiet, they may not have words like us humans. My dog does seem to have some awareness of time.
Just because noone is around to measure something, does not mean there is nothing to be measured. Time is there as a byproduct.
Sounds like a talk of imagination or projection.
It is called Animism, a superstitious belief that nature has souls and dogs can tell times.
You put it very well, but we need to clarify the definition of time first.
All creatures are exquisitely adapted to time. There’s a great story about an experiment involving Atlantic oysters, which were taken by a researcher to a facility in Evanston Illinois and put in tanks in a dark environment with no access to sunlight. Oysters open their shells to feed at high tide each day, but in this environment, they were completely insulated from tidal influences and sunlight. Nevertheless over a period of a few weeks, their cycles became synchronised with what the tides would be, were there tides in Evanston (just north of Chicago in the middle of the American land-mass, so several hours later than the tide peaks in the Atlantic where they had been harvested.)
These findings were hugely controversial as no account of the means by which the oysters were able to detect the position of the moon and sun (which determine the tides) could be given, and the scientist, Frank Brown, was more or less exiled by the scientific community as a consequence of his findings. You can read about it here (may be paywalled.)
In any case, all of nature has circadian and seasonal rhythms. As is well-known there are migratory fish and birds which traverse enormous distances every year to return to the spawning or nesting sites. The oestral cycles of female humans. There are countless examples from the organic world although us moderns are very much insulated from them in our urban and artificially-lit environments.
There are different types of time. I will let you find them out, and come up with the answers.
The point with time is, it must be measured, read, perceived and understood by mind. Unperceived and unknown time has no meaning.
Do you believe that the mind will allow for the user to have multiple perspectives of time simultaneously? We are only ever wired to experience now . All else we relate to through thought, culture, values and such.otherwise, I wholly support everything you say here.
I think the real question is whether all world time line events exist and remain simultaneously or if only now exists and is destroyed by the future, never to return just like it did to the past in an overflowing undisrupted line?
My thoughts on it currently are that the universe is layered,building towards complexity. There is a now, but the full now can never be fully measured. There may not be a singular point at all, just waves overlapping.
Yes, that’s what I said relativity theory does for us. In relation to time, it’s really just an extension of us being able to understand different time zones. By allowing me to understand that it is evening here, and morning somewhere else, my mind allows me to have mulriple perspectives on time, at the same time.
Doesn’t “we relate to through thought” mean to you, that the mind allows us to adopt this other perspective"? For example, the mind, along with certain tools, allows us to look at fundamental particles. Isn’t this a case of the mind allowing us another perspective? Modern technology is full of examples of how the mind allows us to take other perspectives, infrared glasses for night vision for example. You might say it’s the tool which provides this for us, but the mind figures out the principles and devises the tools.
Kind of like an endless series of nows representing all possible timelines and outcomes through which our consciousness will travel.
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Not quite. Is imagination another perspective? If I imagine what it is like to be you, do I know? Perspective requires first person experience. It is the seat of consciousness…being.
I don’t see the point to arguing about the meaning of “perspective”. Since my post was concerned with relativity theory, let’s just say that it allows that there are other frames of reference. Then we don’t need to discuss whether a different frame of reference constitutes a different perspective.
The mind allows us to have multiple frames of reference, at the same time. And the point was that under the guidance of relativity theory, no frame of reference can be declared as the true one, as the way things really move.
That is sound. It also shows that under relativity theory no singular “now” exists again disassembling time into a series of possibilities
I would reframe slightly to say that no exact now exists because there is no singular point. So not that time is a series of possibilities, but you could use time to measure between all the various points.
No, any points are arbitrary, so it is simply a matter of possibilities.