Cynical Pragmatism : Hadot

“Cynical pragmatism” is \approx anti-representational generalized instrumentalism, which I’d like to present for discussion. I also added the work of Hadot as relevant to my theme.

SKETCH

Anti-representationalism rejects understanding the “mind” as a “picture machine” whose “pictures” can be “true” or “false” by “agreeing with” a non-mind.

Put otherwise, belief is approached as the specificity of conduct as a whole and not merely verbal conduct understood as a truth-aimed picturing. In short, we do our belief with our arms and legs and not just our speaking mouths.

Heidegger is a strong influence on me here. We hurry up the staircase to answer a ringing phone. We “blindly believe in” the stairs with our legs. We “read” the stairs as “for climbing” automatically, again with our legs. I use “legs” here as a metonym for the entire organism.

As I have just done, we can use verbal signs to try to “point at” this enacted non-verbal belief. We otherwise live it without noticing it. So theory “leaps over” its basis in “blind” tool-use.

We “non-mind-stuff expect” the stairs to function with our legs. We do our un-thematized expectation of the stairs to function as a means to our thematized goal.

This helps get us to generalized instrumentalism, for our sign trading is now understood more generally as one mode of visceral operation among others of a social organism on its environment.

We trust our signs like we trust the stairs, mostly “blindly.”

Some of these operations with signs might be called picturings, but picturing is not privileged, and the goal of sign use is therefore not assumed to be the achievement of a “true word picture.”

PROBLEMS

To me the “problem” with this approach is that it will tend to be approached itself as a picture of the “failure” (falsity) of “belief as picturing.”

PROMPTS

I request responses to begin with a paraphrase of my position. Please help me to understand you by starting with how you understand me.

I like the deceptive simplicity of your OP, it could generate some interesting responses, I think.

Is this in essence one of your primary philosophical themes? I’ve sensed this idea across some of your posts.

Some not very interesting comments: I remember Richard Rorty saying that human beings are clever animals who use language to manage their environment but none of this gets us to truth or reality, just a source of pragmatic justification.

You seem to be saying that we perform our beliefs through a kind of double act, with our words and our bodies. I’m just not sure if there are hints of a dualistic tension here or whether you’re thinking it’s more like integration. Is language the lapdog of practical experience? Or is it more like stage lighting, creating a mood and distorting what’s real? It can only get away with so much.

So are you mainly concerned with performative contradiction? Are you saying that you’re like someone using reason to argue that reason isn’t reliable?

Hilary Lawson, a minor philosopher perhaps, is one of those mid & late-20th-century thinkers who rejects the idea that language maps onto a world already divided into objects and relationships. Instead, language helps us organise an otherwise open-ended reality into something intelligible. His concept of “closure” is not simply that our descriptions are imperfect, but that language helps constitute the world as we experience and understand it. It closes our otherwise open-ended experience into a world of meaning. This perhaps goes further than Rorty’s view of language as a tool for managing our environment, since Lawson seems to question whether we can meaningfully speak of a fully structured world independent of the ways we make sense of it.

For Lawson, the key question is whether we can make sense of language, knowledge and reality without falling into paradox when we apply our explanations to themselves. The problem is not simply infinite regress, but whether any account of reality can avoid undermining itself.

Sorry if this is off track.

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I use “cynical” to refer to the “dog” movement associated with Diogenes. There’s a hint of the modern use of cynicism here as well, which I might associate with materialism understood as a critique of theory rather than a metaphysical theory of “objective reality stuff.”

I see humans built and dependent on a “dog basis.” In other words, we are animals who don’t primarily prioritize “pure picturing.” The picturing mode of signs only makes sense as part of a more general coping with our environment. The “truth” is what I should act on. The “real” is what I can count on.

I use a map to get me to where I want to go. The treasure map is “for” the acquisition of the treasure. Note that the map and the treasure are both empirical objects in this world. The map “proves itself” as a means.

Spiritual traditions and mystical young philosophers sometimes embrace this understanding of the text as a means — as a disposable ladder or raft.

Even the theorist of truth who makes a living by producing word pictures is after to a paycheck, status among peers, and so on.

Pictures are means. Pictures are tools. But is “pictures are means” itself a picture ?

Thank you !

At the moment yes. Heidegger’s famous hammer example is a key influence on me. How do tools exist ? The stared-at hammer for the theorist is not the hammer for the carpenter driving a nail.

I think that language is mostly like the carpenter’s hammer. We mostly use it “blindly” and yet ( or therefore ) skillfully.

Explicit theory is helplessly dependent on “blind knowhow.” We can’t “hover over” this skill. We “are” this skill. Freud and Heidegger both give us versions of “the unconscious.”

Thank you for the requested paraphrase ! It helps me answer your question.

I’m very fascinating by the “materiality” of language. Speech is noise from the throat and mouth. Writing is shapes on paper or screens or traffic signs. I do not think that this materiality can be scraped off in order to produce “pure meaning stuff.”

I am trying to point out the strong tendency to assume this “pure meaning stuff” non-explicitly. It functions in the background as “obvious.”

Now perhaps you can see that sign-use is just part of general activity of the organism. He brushed his teeth and made the noise “hello” to his wife on the way out the door.

I suggest we widen our understanding of belief so include all expectant conduct and not just “noises that picture.” In short, integration. I can sometimes “do” belief by talking. Philosophers fetishize “pure thought stuff” and tend to restrict belief so that only “pure thought picture stuff” counts. In other words, they assume dualism from the beginning, through a bifurcation of the human organism into a “pure thought penthouse” and a “stupid meat rest of the building.”

I’m saying that “let’s go this way” will likely be read as a picture rather than an as the suggestion of an experiment. If I say “words are not pictures but tools,” this is efficient. But it asks more from the reader accustomed to responding to that form as a picture with a truth value.

Philosophers can be helplessly literal. Many of them want to offer a “physics” of “true reality.” So they aren’t reading literary criticism and worrying about the complexity of speech acts. They “leap right over” the problem of signification. That is just girly emotional intelligence stuff.

To me “account” reads here like a picture. For context, I do not even hope for a last word. This is like hoping for a last shake of the leg. One of the great themes in Bachktin is a prejudice for the monological in terms of the public monument. The theorist dreams of “true sign picture for everyone and always.” This means that signs have to have a fixed meaning, independent of context.

This is only plausible for the theorist who remains “blind” to his typical use of signs in the world. The atypical theoretical situation is instead treated as the general linguistic situation.

The theorist is obsessed with true picturing as the inherited goal, so all “proper” language pictures. Legs trusting stairs is not “belief” because belief “must” be a discursive picture. Our “divinity” relative to non-human animals depends on it.

I tried to find others approaching belief this way, and I had “turn and live with animals.”

Several philosophers accept that non-human animals can engage in some thinking or proto-thinking, but still draw a sharp distinction between the severely limited thoughts or proto-thoughts of most (if not all) non-human animals and human thoughts. One alleged key difference is that animal thinking has an exclusively perceptual, pragmatic, and context-bound nature (Bermúdez 2003). Unlike humans, animals cannot significantly detach their thinking from current perceptual stimuli. Another frequently suggested difference is that animals cannot distance themselves from their practical concerns and represent “pure facts” (Millikan 2004).

What erotic-spiritual role does “pure fact” play here ?

Consider the human umvelt in 2026 as one that includes stop signs and traffic lights. I pretty much “automatically” stop at red lights. I return a friendly wave with a friendly wave. Our environment is “fundamentally significant.” We have historically established signs proper but also recognizable recurrent objects. “Oh that’s my wife over there.” The world is just there as a “system” of things. Some of these things are the marks and noises we make. We learn to employ them and react to them. The better we are at this, the less we notice it. Once I can confidently ride I bike, I do not notice the bike for the most part but the scenery around me.

Most of our sign use is like that. It is on top of this “automatic skill” that we can thematize this or that piece of sign-use. But we have to use this thematized skill to discuss the piece that is thematize. In this sense, “the ground is an abyss.” So a “final account” of reality looks like a ridiculous project. On the other hand, many “grand sayings” might be good for this or that moment, in this or that dialogue. As a means.

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Nice topic. :+1:

I’ll take a quick stab at it.

My summary is that you problematize the commonly understood notion of belief—noting that belief has a performative element that goes beyond language—and then you problematise your problematisation, wondering if you get bitten by your own pet poodle (sticking to the canine theme :partying_face:).

I think the first part is more interesting, to me at least, maybe because it’s something I’ve thought about recently, though with a slightly different framing.

You point out that we live in an umwelt that requires an enormous amount of belief in order to produce what I would call legible behaviour— behaviour that is consonant with whatever social coding undergirds such an umwelt.

So, it’s not just that we know the code, but that it has become a kind of second nature, so it has a power over us that is more analagious to a religious belief than, say, a knowledge of a religion.

Of course, there are levels to disentangle here. Running up a stairs is much more akin to the kind of reflexive behaviour that we find in other animals. It can count as a kind of belief in the sense you spoke of, but it doesn’t add much to the idea of physical affordances. And it doesn’t matter too much whether it’s a stairs or a hill since pre-linguistic children negotiate these kinds of objects with no regard to their conceptual significance.

So feel free to disagree, but I think the more fertile ground lies here in the properly coded world, in the fact that no matter how cynical we propose ourselves to be, we can’t but help believe in a huge mass of socially constructed facts, e.g. that someone is my wife or the stop sign means stop as you say. And the more we believe in them—the more fluid and immediate our beliefs—the less we seem to ourselves to believe. The belief disappears from us in proportion to its strength as belief.

This is ironic from a couple of angles; obviously that the more we believe in something, the less we tend to be aware of that belief. But also, the more things there are to believe in, the more it seems we are freed up to imagine (falsely) we don’t believe in anything. This reduces to something like the depth and scope of belief increase in inverse proportion to our belief that we believe.

We have never faced the sheer amount of stuff there is to believe in, nor needed to believe so automatically and therefore deeply to navigate it. But it’s in this hyper-advanced complexity , where so much of our energy is wrapped up in belief that the idea of the free subject unfettered by belief is strongest.

This, I think, is something like Sloterdijk’s point in “A Critique of Cynical Reason” (later also advanced by Zizek) that our cynicism about belief is just what allows us to be so fully functionalized socially. Believing we don’t believe allows us to perform belief all the more.

I’ll stop there for now as I may be in danger of going off your central point. Feel free to reel me back in if necessary.

Edit: Just noticed the closely related Thought and Belief thread. Better have a read.

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I suppose I am just fascinated by an analogy here.

The telescope works by vanishing altogether. The sitrep works by being the situation. The life of the sign in one sense is its annihilation in another. The earnestly literal philosopher is not in the best position to notice this, since the sign is “literally” not the signified. But we ourselves largely live in and as this life of signs.

Beautifully put. I find it fascinating that self-knowledge requires excavation. We are blind precisely to our most intense beliefs. These beliefs vanish in order to function, just as the telescope vanishes to “become” the moon.

Gadamer wrote that “we are constituted by prejudice.” I take him to be focused more on signs proper. But I think we “read” stairs and knives and doorknobs like signs with our legs and hands. In this sense objects are “generalized signs.” The world is a “visceral text,” just by being “articulated” in terms of our inherited/trained expectations.

I agree with Gadamer that our prejudices ( expectations ) “shine back on us” from the object itself. This justifies the “projection” metaphor.

Yet “we know what we do.” So we tend to eject “floating mouth belief” and demand a proof that we share a world with others, not seeing that proof presupposes this sharing or that we already deeply believe in what we pretend to need proved. So theoretical talk is often like harmless temporary insanity, which is only harmless because we don’t non-verbally act on any of it. Breakfast of Champions shows us then non-harmless version as Hoover treats other people like P-zombies/robots. I’m not saying that this play madness is bad. It’s just weird. It’s good that common sense is subject to critique, so we don’t want to close the door on this “insanity” entirely.

Well put. I think this is why I wanted to point out “non-verbal conduct belief,” as a place to get the crowbar in. To move around in the world in any specified direction is to expect and believe and project. Life “is” incarnate belief. It’s not a question of whether but how.

The more we are dazzled by a plethora of optional costume theoretical beliefs, the more we are able, as you say in your words, to be sophisticated believers in “nothing at all.”

I’m a fan of both thinkers.

I am fascinated by this gap between walk and talk, and the justification or suppression of this gap within talk. As others have noted, the world for the pure stare is “sacred.” And there is something genuine in the high theoretical mode, but also something perverse, at least when this “high staring” is a mask for the mirror.

Pierre Hadot, classical philosopher and historian of philosophy, is best known for his conception of ancient philosophy as a bios or way of life (manière de vivre).

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Way of life, comportment. Philosophy as the adjustment and/or maintenance of meat trajectory.

Finally, because Cynicism denotes a way of living, it is inaccurate to equate Cynicism with the other schools of its day. The Cynics had no set space where they met and discoursed, such as the Garden, the Lyceum, or the Academy; for Diogenes and Crates, the streets of Athens provide the setting for both their teaching and their training. Moreover, the Cynics neglect, and very often ridicule, speculative philosophy. They are especially harsh critics of dogmatic thought, theories they consider useless, and metaphysical essences.

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Whether a theory is “useless” looks context-dependent to me, but I understand the rejection of essences.

Back to Hadot:

The goal of the ancient philosophies, Hadot argued, was to cultivate a specific, constant attitude toward existence, by way of the rational comprehension of the nature of humanity and its place in the cosmos. This cultivation required, specifically, that students learn to combat their passions and the illusory evaluative beliefs instilled by their passions, habits, and upbringing. To cultivate philosophical discourse or writing without connection to such a transformed ethical comportment was, for the ancients, to be as a rhetorician or a sophist, not a philosopher. However, according to Hadot, with the advent of the Christian era and the eventual outlawing, in 529 C.E., of the ancient philosophical schools, philosophy conceived of as a bios largely disappeared from the West. Its spiritual practices were integrated into, and adapted by, forms of Christian monasticism. The philosophers’ dialectical techniques and metaphysical views were integrated into, and subordinated, first to revealed theology and then, later, to the modern natural sciences. However, Hadot maintained that the conception of philosophy as a bios has never completely disappeared from the West, resurfacing in Montaigne, Rousseau, Goethe, Thoreau, Nietzsche, and Schopenhauer, and even in the works of Descartes, Spinoza, Kant, and Heidegger.

Not “speaker of true picture” but enacting of a high, stable attitude. The easy-going “relativist” is the typical target of the “truth speaking project.” From within this project, the “relativist” can only appear as walking performative contradiction.

I envision this impious relativist as trying to broadcast a flexible attitude as a possibility of personality that others are often compelled to assimilate as “revealed theology” in the withered scientistic form of “agreement with objective reality.” To me this is at worse a nonsense phrase and at best an inflation of the quest for a less badly biased understanding of the world. Because objectivity is just ideal subjectivity, this “objective reality” is biased toward this or that “virtue image.”

A philosopher may try to communicate an attitude or possibility of personality with what get themselves called “assertions.” His or her “literal” ( tone-deaf) listeners comport themselves toward such signs as attempts to mirror a timeless “external” truth-maker. Missing the “larger message” of hopefully benevolent impiety with respect to such a project.

The “revealed theology” or “final word” approach tacitly needs only the single truth-speaker and the spoken “true reality.” At least if one assumes a set of eternal essences already installed in arbitrary marks and noises. In other words, the “truth speaking” project assumes that dialogue is secondary. The body too is secondary. All virtue is concentrated on the speaking mouth, and this virtue has nothing to do with how others are treated but only with “accuracy” or “correctitude.”

So we get an obsession with epistemology that tends to overlook the problem of meaning. For me anyway it was a breakthrough to just really notice that signs are empirical objects. I cannot predict the significance of my signs for others. I cannot help expecting and hoping, but this expectation can at least be made “legible” for the expectant speaker. It is only “over time” and through dialogue that a sense of mutual concordance might be generated. The “meaning” of the words in this concrete situation as a whole, not in the signs alone.

While Hadot was an admirer of Nietzsche and Heidegger, and committed to a kind of philosophical recasting of the history of Western ideas, Hadot’s work lacks any eschatological sense of the end of philosophy, humanism, or the West. Late in life, Hadot would report that this was because he was animated by the sense that philosophy, as conceived and practiced in the ancient schools, remains possible for men and women of his era: “from 1970 on, I have felt very strongly that it was Epicureanism and Stoicism which could nourish the spiritual life of men and women of our times, as well as my own” (PWL 280).

Nice to read this, as these two movements have quietly influenced my non-theoretical life in the world. I also like this lack of a sense of any ending. The future is who knows what, but I expect the possibility of a philosophical comportment to linger — at least as long as we do.

Hadot’s Socrates anticipates and sets the mold for all the ancient philosophies as ways of life. First, Socrates associated the philosophic life with a revaluation of accepted normative commitments of his society and with a studied indifference toward the things his contemporaries coveted (wealth, status, property, public office, political disputes), as attested by his appearance, dress, and absence of gainful employment (compare Apo. 36b). Second, as Plato’s Alcibiades famously attests in the Symposium, Socrates overturned accepted, inherited models of wisdom, in his discourse as much as in his person, as well as through his repeated ironic claims, that he lacked any kind of higher wisdom, saying that he was only a midwife for the ideas of others, or was like a gadfly stirring his fellows from ethical complacency. He is identified in Plato’s Symposium with the daimonic Eros, mediating between human beings and the gods, but not for that reason divine himself (PWL 158-165).Third, Hadot’s Socrates is the first, unsurpassable practitioner of philosophic dialogue conceived of as what Hadot calls a “spiritual exercise” (compare 5) designed to actively implicate the other in the Socratic process of doubting received opinions and seeking to render one’s own beliefs consistent. For Hadot, “in the Socratic dialogue, the real question is less what is being talked about than who is doing the talking,” as Nikias attests in the Laches, when the latter notes that whichever topic Socrates’ interlocutor may raise, “he will continually be carried round and round by him, until at last he finds that he has to give an account both of his present and past life” (Laches 197e; WAP 28; PWL 155). Fourth, Hadot notes that when Socrates does attest to having some kinds of knowledge, in the famous Socratic paradoxes—that no one does evil voluntarily, that it is better to suffer than to do wrong, and that the good man cannot be harmed—this knowledge is of a specifically ethical kind, concerning how to live, and what is good or bad for the psyche: “Socrates does not know the value to be attributed to death, because it is not in his power . . . Yet he does know the value of moral action and intention, for they do depend on his choice, his decision, and his engagement . . .” (WAP 83, 84). In other words, in Hadot’s Socrates, care for the self and care for others coincided with Socrates’ sense of what Hadot calls “the absolute value of moral intent: a philosophical commitment embodied in Socrates’ dialogical calling, “to try to persuade all of you to concern yourself less about what he has than about what he is . . .” (Apo. 36c). Above all, Hadot stresses that throughout antiquity Socrates was the model of the philosopher whose work was, above all, his own life, death, and example: “He was the first to show that at all times and all places, in everything that happens to us, daily life gives the opportunity to do philosophy” (Plutarch, at WAP 38).

Over the years I continue to find more in Socrates.

The philosophical Sage, in all the ancient discourses, is characterized by a constant inner state of happiness or serenity. This has been achieved through minimizing his bodily and other needs, and thus attaining to the most complete independence (autarcheia) vis-à-vis external things. The Sage is for this reason capable of maintaining virtuous resolve and clarity of judgment in the face of the most overwhelming threats, from natural catastrophes to “the fury of citizens who ordain evil . . . [or] the face of a threatening tyrant” (Horace in WAP 223). In the different ancient schools, these characteristics differentiating the Sage from nonphilosophers mean that this figure “tends to become very close to God or the gods,” as conceived by the philosophers. The Epicurean gods, like the God of Aristotle, Hadot notes, are characterized by their perfect serenity and exemption from all troubles and dangers. Epicurus calls the Sage the friend of the gods, and the gods friends of the Sages. Aristotle equates the contemplation of the wise man with the self-contemplation of the unmoved mover. Platonic philosophy sees ascent in wisdom as progressive assimilation to the divine (WAP 226-7). Hadot goes as far as to suggest that Plotinus and other ancient philosophers “project” the figure of the God, on the basis of their conception of the figure of the Sage, as a kind of model of human and intellectual perfection” (WAP 227-8). However, Hadot stresses that the divine freedom of the Sage from the concerns of ordinary human beings does not mean the Sage lacks all concern for the things that preoccupy other human beings. Indeed, in a series of remarkable analyses, Hadot argues that this indifference towards external goods (money, fame, property, office . . . ) opens the Sage to a different, elevated state of awareness in which he “never ceases to have the whole present in his mind, never forgets the world, thinks and acts in relation to the cosmos . . . ” (Bernhard Groethuysen in WAP 229). The Stoic Sage who has realized that external things do not depend upon his will, for instance, is prompted to accept these “indifferents” with equal benevolence or equanimity (the famous amor fati, or love of fate, later adopted by Nietzsche). In “The Sage and the World,” Hadot analyzes the peculiar phenomenology of this “detached, disinterested consciousness” in Lucretius and Seneca, aligning their thoughts with modern discourse on aesthetic perception, Rousseau’s famous “sensation of existence,” and Bergson’s conception of philosophical perception (PWL 253-6). The perception of the Sage constantly views things with the wonder of seeing the world for the first time (PWL 257-8), or as others see things only when a sense of their mortality, and therefore the unique singularity of each moment and experience, is imposed upon them (PWL 260).

This is beautiful. I love the mention of “seeing the world for the first time.” To maintain a sense of wonder. Reminds me also of Job. And perhaps Job was a bit of a sage in training.

And said, Naked came I out of my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return thither: the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.

I take the “Lord” here as a personification of reality. Was Job really full of joy at that moment ? Perhaps not. But we can him imagine him articulating his ideal attitude with respect to reality or “The Lord.”