# What Created God? **URL:** \ **Category:** Philosophy of Religion\ **Tags:** god\ **Created:** [September 14, 2026, 1:41am UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062 "2026-09-14T01:41:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Syamsu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Syamsu](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Syamsu)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/22 "2026-09-14T14:17:20Z")
I already explained that. No your emotions, your soul, is not a creation. ---
**Author:** ![Vox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/2acd7d/32.png) [@Vox](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Vox)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 3:12pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/23 "2026-09-14T15:12:46Z")
> [@Hanover](#): > > If your premise is that every event has a cause, then you cannot posit a first uncaused cause because it would violate your premise. That leads to an infinite chain of causes without beginning. 5 was caused by 4 by 3 by 2 back to negative infinity. Which is my point and question? Where is the very start? Because at some point there must be an end to the infinity. ---
**Author:** ![180Proof](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/180proof/32/1100_2.png) [@180Proof](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/180Proof)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 4:14pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/24 "2026-09-14T16:14:24Z")
> [@Vox](#): > > Then what created Death? Randomness. ---
**Author:** ![Vox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/2acd7d/32.png) [@Vox](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Vox)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/25 "2026-09-14T16:46:13Z")
> [@180Proof](#): > > Randomness. So death was randomly created out of nothing and then death made God? ---
**Author:** ![Johnnywas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/22d042/32.png) [@Johnnywas](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Johnnywas)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 5:44pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/26 "2026-09-14T17:44:45Z")
He, she or they evolved from monkey gods. ---
**Author:** ![180Proof](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/180proof/32/1100_2.png) [@180Proof](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/180Proof)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 7:00pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/27 "2026-09-14T19:00:03Z")
No. Randomness “created” death _out of randomness._ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/frank/32/216_2.png) [@Frank](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/29 "2026-09-14T19:28:13Z")
Per many a religious view, God is everything. Everything has no location, and anything that came before it is included in it. ---
**Author:** ![Scorpion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/scorpion/32/875_2.png) [@Scorpion](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Scorpion)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 8:31pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/30 "2026-09-14T20:31:21Z")
> [@Johnnywas](#): > > He, she or they evolved from monkey gods. Donning my pedantic hat, our ancestors were not monkeys. Hominids are different from monkeys and monkeys are our cousins. ---
**Author:** ![Johnnywas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/22d042/32.png) [@Johnnywas](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Johnnywas)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/31 "2026-09-14T21:24:14Z")
Richard Dawkins tells the story of a lady who claimed that the Earth rests on the back of a giant turtle. He asked what does the turtle stand on, and they told him "I know what you are implying. Let me tell you this -It’s turtles all the way down.” ---
**Author:** ![Scorpion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/scorpion/32/875_2.png) [@Scorpion](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Scorpion)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/32 "2026-09-14T21:28:06Z")
What’s wrong with turtles all the way down? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/mijin1/32/1180_2.png) [@Mijin1](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Mijin1)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:56am UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/33 "2026-09-15T08:56:19Z")
1. On “matter cannot be created nor destroyed”: science is descriptive, nor prescriptive. We observe that in the universe as we know it, mass energy does not spontaneously appear. However, we’re not the boss of the universe. If it wants to make an apple appear in your hand ex nihilo, that’s the universe’s prerogative. We would then rewrite our laws, if this is a widely observed phenomenon. So in itself it doesn’t tell us anything about how/whether a universe, or a god can exist. 1. Theists have a number of responses to the OP. They all (I think..let me know if I’m wrong) basically posit God is a special case. The most famous response is the Kalam cosmological argument, that says everything with a _beginning_ has a cause. And God, being timeless _doesn’t_ require a cause. 2. The true answer in my view is that we don’t have an answer, neither for God (if it existed) nor the universe. Whether we say the universe/god is finite or infinite, there’s an explanatory gap. And it’s hard to see how that gap could ever be crossed. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@Tom\_Storm](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Tom_Storm)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:06am UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/34 "2026-09-15T09:06:23Z")
> [@Johnnywas](#): > > Richard Dawkins tells the story of a lady who claimed that the Earth rests on the back of a giant turtle. He asked what does the turtle stand on, and they told him "I know what you are implying. Let me tell you this -It’s turtles all the way down.” Apparently, the earliest well-known version of this anecdote appears in Hume. Russell popularised a version of it in the early 20th century. Now Dawkins. Anecdotes get diluted over time, just as the public intellectuals become less interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Thrifclyfe](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/thrifclyfe/32/1132_2.png) [@Thrifclyfe](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Thrifclyfe)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:17am UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/35 "2026-09-15T09:17:44Z")
> [@Johnnywas](#): > > The Earth rests on the back of a giant turtle. Terry Pratchett was an English author whose cosmology was this. A turtle, then four elephants, then a flat, circular Earth. He was a comedy writer, so he gets a pass. > [@Mijin1](#): > > Theists [..] posit God is a special case. Special pleading? Yes, to a theist, God would likely be the most special thing imaginable, as you surely understand. So the special pleading goes without saying. If I am right, the nature of these discussions is therefore one of conceptual incommensurability and little progress, with parties arguing past each other. Forgive my metaphilosophical cynicism, but it’s all very _philosophical_. ---
**Author:** ![Vox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/2acd7d/32.png) [@Vox](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Vox)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 11:54am UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/36 "2026-09-15T11:54:23Z")
Thanks.. ---
**Author:** ![Vox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/2acd7d/32.png) [@Vox](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Vox)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 11:55am UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/37 "2026-09-15T11:55:26Z")
> [@Thrifclyfe](#): > > _philosophical_. And that’s the point of this website no? ---
**Author:** ![Corvus](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/corvus/32/1606_2.png) [@Corvus](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Corvus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 12:02pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/38 "2026-09-15T12:02:14Z")
> [@Vox](#): > > Okay, so I’m not religious but from how I understand it people say God created the Universe and life. But then what created God? At some point there has to be some scientific thing that created God, because matter cannot be created nor destroyed, so at some point there must have been something else, right? What is the definition of “created” or “creating”? Does creating involve manual crafting on the materials to make something new? Or what form of process is called “create”? Whatever the case, God needs to analysed for what it is made of or composed of. With this information, we can discuss further into the central question, what created God. IOW, what is God made of, and what do you mean by “created”? ---
**Author:** ![Thrifclyfe](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/thrifclyfe/32/1132_2.png) [@Thrifclyfe](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Thrifclyfe)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 12:03pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/39 "2026-09-15T12:03:40Z")
Endless debates without resolution? I would hope not. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/www.thephilosophyforum.com/mijin1/32/1180_2.png) [@Mijin1](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Mijin1)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 12:36pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/40 "2026-09-15T12:36:20Z")
> [@Vox](#): > > Thanks.. No worries, and I’m happy to elaborate on any of those points. I just wanted to give the basic summary before getting into the back-and-forths 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/2acd7d/32.png) [@Vox](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Vox)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 1:11pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/41 "2026-09-15T13:11:14Z")
> [@Thrifclyfe](#): > > Endless debates without resolution? I would hope not. Oh yeah that’s fair, I was just curious on everone’s ideas ---
**Author:** ![Vox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/2acd7d/32.png) [@Vox](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/u/Vox)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062/42 "2026-09-15T13:12:31Z")
> [@Corvus](#): > > IOW, what is God made of, and what do you mean by “created”? Supposedly he’s a spirit I think? Idk someone whose religious please correct me because I know I’m wrong, and by created I mean like he made it, he’s the one who took nothing and made it into something. [Previous page](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.thephilosophyforum.com/t/what-created-god/3062.md?page=3)