Are you indifferent about having your personal history time-forward deconstructed towards non-existence versus having your personal history entropically disintegrated towards non-existence?
Is the apparent bias on earth towards time-forward over time-backward an illusion? If not, what accounts for this bias?
History is remembering where when and why. A mere reflection of shared point of view.Some say history is alive and is a sudden motivater to accomplishment.
In dreams, you don’t have access to idea of time. You are given with random images of folks or places appearing in your dreams. If you did have some sort of distinct idea of time during your dreams, then it would be also meaningless random nature.
Time is only meaningful to you when you are sober and conscious.
Time-forward irreversible is central to your account of history. If time is reversible within existential physics (as distinct from theoretical physics), like it is within the abstract formalisms of math and logic, then there is no meaningful history, such as that to which you refer. This because the undoing of events erases their permanence, and thus their meaning. Time existentially reversible requires no commitment to a reality changing yet persistent in its identity. This is the source of meaning for humans, and for the animal kingdom as well.
When a young man or woman commits to serving his/her country within the armed services during wartime, this commitment is meaningful because the young person can die on the battlefield. Once that happens, that young person won’t be coming back home. This is meaning for a sentient being who stakes his/her life upon values to which he/she is committed. If a person can die on the battlefield and then events reverse themselves - like in a movie - life is reduced to a meaningless cartoon. It’s the existence of dynamical physics; it’s not the reality of lives with persistent-forward identities that accumulate values and meanings before perishing.
Dreams, like waking experience, include motion through spacetime. In the example, as you move across the Alaskan landscape and enter the spacetime over Russia, change of position equals change of time. Motion within motion picture dreams has time duration just as the period of dreaming a motion picture dreaming experience has time duration. How do you counter-argue the reports of dreaming analysts providing data about the time duration of REM sleep for example, and the reports of the dreamers who experience motion in flight across dreaming intervals of time visualized by the perceived motion in flight?
Many remembered dreams are visual analogs to motion pictures, and these dreams have interpreted meanings involving the elapsing of time experienced within both the mind and the body. What is your counter-narrative to this?
Thing is, all the interpretations of time are just that, interpretations. That means there is zero empirical difference between them. If humans could not live without a functional present, that would constitute an empirical difference. So your statement tells me that you don’t understand the alternatives.
I don’t think anybody claimed otherwise. Even without a present, events (time-like separated ones anyway) are objectively ordered. The ordering of space-like separated events are frame dependent, hence the term ‘relativity of simultaneity’.
As I said, the experience by a human (or anything else) is not a function of interpretation of time. This is possibly not true under certain forms of dualism such as personal moving spotlight, which is an epiphenomenal view, but it’s also not time running backwards, it’s just you running backwards, much like watching a movie in reverse. It doesn’t change the movie.
All this presumes motion. I’m indifferent about the notion that anything moves at all like that. My personal history starts at whenever my permanent memories start forming (typically around year 2) and grow until they begin to rot. This is true regardless of interpretation of time. Even if some dynamic present moves backwards, my history still starts at youth and fades near death.
Earth is not special. Time works the same way at other places in this universe. Or at least I’m unaware of some geocentric interpretation of time. As for its motion being an illusion, yes, that illusion is put there by evolution, since any creature that needs to predict is more fit with that intuition than one that lacks it. Evolution does not select for truth. It selects for fitness. Humans are not particularly fit, but we inherited that particular intuition from way back when our ancestors were still in the sea.
You can measure the time for your sleep i.e. falling asleep and waking up. But you cannot measure time of your trip from Alaska to Moscow in your dream.
This is due to the fact, as I described previously, what is happening in your dream is totally random and arbitrary only visible to your unconscious state of mind.
There is no one witnessing your dream in the whole universe apart from yourself, and even yourself have no control over what you were dreaming, and why and how long you were dreaming. It is just such random private mental event, where time and space is not relevant for the event.
You don’t need a playground and two hours for playing baseball in your dream, if you happened to dream about it. It all happens in your unconscious mental state, and it could take a few seconds for the baseball game to end its 9 rounds. All you need for that to happen in your dream is for you to close your eyes and fall asleep thinking about it.
Time is only meaningful, measurable and accessible for the observed events in the real world to those who are conscious and perceiving the reality.
Time is just a language describing how long something has taken to start and finish. It is not some physical force make things happen for you or to the world.
If a motion picture dream sequence has a time duration of a few seconds, that’s a temporal sequence; it’s not timeless, as your own words indicate.
Even if events in a motion picture are random in the sense there’s no thematic-logical connection between them, they are nonetheless an ordered sequence of events. The ordered sequence has a beginning, middle and end. This ordered sequence spans a positive time interval.
When you experience a motion picture dream, you follow a sequence of events, and that sequential experience uses up a positive volume of time.
Science has proven by measurement that time slows down lawfully as a moving object gets closer to a gravitational field. Time is a part of physics.
Can you measure the time duration for the motion picture sequence in your dream then? Without your ability to measure and tell us exactly how long it was, it wouldn’t be a meaningful claim at all afraid.
Write a short description that shows how this applies to QM re: The Copenhagen Interpretation Vs. The Many Worlds Interpretation. Bear in mind that constructing an interpretation is itself an empirical experience.
Write a short description of a human living without a functional present. Bear in mind that a human who believes in time-reversible nonetheless constructs his belief in the present and not anywhere else in time. Also bear in mind that a human experiencing time travel experiences it in the present.
Write a short description of a human experiencing, “The ordering of space-like separated events are frame dependent, hence the term relativity of sumultaneity,” within an interval of time not the present for that person.
You appear to be saying watching a strip of film from end-to-beginning varies from watching a strip of film from beginning-to-end in terms of the experience of the interpreter. The film analogy is not good because if time were reversed, you presumably would experience you personal history being deconstructed out of the general historical record. Perhaps it would be experienced like amnesia gradually expanding in scope. The irreversibility of time forward via simulation of prior states of the system (you) is the function that allows you to have an identity with memories and hopes toward the future. This is real life, not watching a film run backwards. While doing that, you are moving irreversibly forward in time with a physically platformed ability to remember what you’re seeing now.
A more proper use of the film strip analogy has me saying the ordered recording of time slices i.e., the individual frames, preserves a reversible history, and time has its fingerprints all over this dynamism of physics. Time as an invariant, unified field with eternal time slices as nodes perturbing the unified field and infinitely mappable in all directions (there’s you relativity of simultaneity) doesn’t offer itself as an apt description of the irreversibility of time making you possible.
You alone don’t make your personal history possible. You experience your personal history as an identity persistent across transformations via simulations. You experience doing everything you can to preserve your irreversible time forward progression through life.
You can make this declaration because time forward irreversible empowers you to do such. If time were static, or reversible, your history wouldn’t mean anything, given the absence of your commitment to be yourself in one direction forward of transforming simulations not static as invariant laws abstracted from dynamism or erasable as reversible loops without stakes in the present state of the system (you) going forward.
Why do we never see time-backward on earth, or anywhere else? If it has been humanly experienced - not conjectured - cite the example in a hyperlink.
It really has little if anything to do with QM. We’re talking about interpretations of time, not interpretations of quantum theory.
Write a short description of a human living without a functional present.
It is precisely identical to what you currently experience. As I said, there is no empirical difference between interpretations. That means that your pragmatic sense of a present is still there.
If a person believes in a reversible present (whatever that means), so be it. He can invent yet another new interpretation that supports this. I even named a couple, but they’re not in any way justifiable.
Also bear in mind that a human experiencing time travel experiences it in the present.
This is an assertion about something impossible (presuming ‘time travel to the past’). If you assert that you experience it in the present, but the present is back where you left it, it indicates that your model isn’t consistent with a single physical present (like the growing block model you seemed to describe), but perhaps only a personal one.
Write a short description of a human experiencing, “The ordering of space-like separated events are frame dependent"
A human is not at two widely separated (by space) events at once. I mean, one can in principle slap both your hands onto the table ‘at once’, where depending on the frame chosen, one hand or the other contacts first. But you don’t directly experience those two events, you experience only the signals or sound that arrives at your brain some time later. Relativity of simultaneity is a coordinate effect, not something that can be physically verified. If it could, the absolute interpretations (like presentism) could be falsified.
You appear to be saying watching a strip of film from end-to-beginning varies from watching a strip of film from beginning-to-end in terms of the experience of the interpreter.
Interpreter? If you’re watching a film backwards, you still have your own memory of the ending as you watch the middle. But the person in the file watched has no memory of how the film ends. That’s dualism: you watching without any control, and the person being experienced, who has separate memory.
If you’re going to posit dualism, you need to have a model. Who has control? Who has the memory? What’s it like to be the one not in control? What’s the point of being that one?
Not sure what that means. One’s history is what actually happens. One’s personal history is memory of your prior experiences, which is capable of not corresponding to what actually happens. Sometimes it might not even correspond to the correct person.
Point seems to be: personal identity is grounded in virtual memory, which can be driven to contradiction. There’s nothing really physical about it.
I made that declaration despite lack of acknowledgement of anything that ‘goes’ forward or in reverse. It was a mere reference to ordered events, none of which is necessarily a present moment.
If time were static, or reversible, your history wouldn’t mean anything
I beg to differ. Again, you apparently don’t understand the alternative, and how they differ only in ontology of events, and personal experience is not a function of event ontology.
Why do we never see time-backward on earth, or anywhere else?
Maybe you do. Since the empirical experience would be no different, you can’t demonstrate that you’re not seeing it.
If it has been humanly experienced - not conjectured - cite the example in a hyperlink.
Yet again, it’s all interpretations, and one cannot cite any evidence of one interpretation being the case over another.
If this were not the case, it wouldn’t be an interpretation, it would be a falsified hypothesis.
It’s extremely interesting to understand this set of starting axioms.
First, you write that time is a dimension. Is this a dimension as a way of measuring, or is it a dimension as something existing as an entity? This is important for understanding the rest of the text.
Second, structure. Is structure used here for description, or does time have its own “asymmetrical structure”?
So, it turns out that time is a structure that in itself influences things, causing them to develop?
Finally, you write that it is organized history. So, it was time that organized everything that happened?
The ordered sequence is not time. Time emerges from the act of measuring, and getting the value of duration.
It sounds like time slowed down due to something gone wrong with their instruments for the measurement i.e. faulty watches or low battery in the clock?
If the moving object was approaching to a gravitational field with super high speed, then electronics in the instruments can go wrong, or malfunctioning.
Not sure if time is a part of physics. Measurement of duration could be.
You start by standing on a red square, next you walk forward onto a green square, and finally you walk forward onto a blue square. Do you agree, or do you deny, that in your walk from the red square through the green square and finally onto the blue square, you have expended a positive volume of time?
The slowing of time in relation to the strength of a gravitational field is not due to errors in measurement. Check the literature and you’ll discover that an atomic clock placed on the top floor of a skyscraper runs faster than an atomic clock placed on the ground floor of the same skyscraper. The difference is a tiny interval of time, but it is a correct measurement. The difference is due to the fact the atomic clock on the ground floor, being closer to earth’s gravitational field, experiences a stronger gravitational force and slows down relative to the clock on the top floor.
Time is a physical dimension that orders events by accumulating a continuity (history) of a persistent identity across lawful transformations of the form of that persistent identity. This is time-forward progression of an identity (yours) by means of reiterative simulation of that identity momemt-by-moment. Astorre today is similar to but not identical to Astorre yesterday. Astorre today is a simulation of Astorre yesterday. Irreversible time forward is the dimension that makes your identity possible.
Structure is closely linked to time, but more fundamentally, structure is tied to an ontological fundamental: symmetry/asymmetry. In logical notation, this translates to: a ≠ b. The difference that distinguishes a from b is essential to structure, which organizes that difference into a perceivable identity distinct from its environment.
Time is the fourth dimension of the 4D manifold. The other three dimensions are length, width, and depth. As you know, these are the three spatial dimensions of our world.
It seems that the fourth dimension ought be more than one thing. ‘Rate’, ‘Setting’, etc.
If we were being scientific about it, it’s not just one thing.
As you go through your day, let’s say, venturing from sun up to sun down, the events of the day accumulate within your memory, which is bound to the passage of time. Probably you carry a timepiece with you as you make your journey. It helps you maintain an orderly understanding of what you’re experiencing. It also helps you track the paths you follow, and also predict what likely will happen next, as based upon your accumulating record of what has happened already.