They almost certainly have you on meds for a reason — it just appears those meds aren’t working, or otherwise you would not have made the comments you have made in this thread.
I appreciate the sympathy. Most people can’t bear to even acknowledge what’s happened to me.
And I would end my own reality without ending anyone else’s, but we live in a shared, interconnected reality.
Were it not for the possibility of reincarnation, I’d have ended mine.
Now it’s a question of how to end all functioning so there’s no mechanic whatsoever to bring me back.
Like I said, the only way is for people to suffer to the critical point. If they haven’t reached it, then they’re still attached to this worthless existence. And they allow countless to live in torture, slavery, etc, for what? So they can live their petty dreams? No, they need to know what suffering means, so suffering can end.
You said there’s no point in talking to me, yet you continue to reply. Consider your mental status.
That idea of the critical point is your own. I, and I think from the responses here, most others, will disagree with you, or at least say that the correct response is to seek ways of living that minimize suffering.
Your very suggestion, that others “need to know what suffering means”, implies that there are many who do not suffer as you have; for whom joy outweighs suffering.
You struck out and suffered needlessly. It does not follow that this is true for everyone. Others, myself included, will say that the joy outweighs the suffering.
Again, you do not have the right to make such a decision on our behalf.
So you see that I suffered needlessly since childhood.
You see that it continues to this day.
You claim that maximizing joy and reducing suffering is best.
Well, would you help me, then?
Before I reached a critical point, I loved and had dreams too.
I’m a scholar. I’m an athlete. I’m an artist.
I was very generous and supportive even though I wasn’t rich.
Will you actually seek to free me from this illicit abuse situation I’m in? Again, my lawyers have confirmed they’re imprisoning me illegally, and forcing medication illegally. One lawyer is dead now, the other is missing.
Will you do something for me?
Will you do something for the countless children in trafficking right now who haven’t escaped to the streets?
If the answer is yes, then maybe you give me some hope.
If the answer is no, then you should see what all this is like for yourself.
It’s pretty obvious I have no way to verify the claims of an anonymous author on an internet forum.
Just as I don’t know you, you do not know me. I already act, as I see fit, in order to improve our situation.
That I cannot support you does not imply that overall I cause more suffering than joy. Indeed, one central claim I am making is that it is impossible for you or I to make such an evaluation, for ourselves let alone for everyone else.
So again, you do not have the right to make such a judgment on my behalf. You do not have the right to deny existence to others.
Will you make any effort to investigate or to verify me, then?
What is your plan to spread health, joy, safety across the whole world, and worlds beyond if they exist?
Is your joy-spreading conditional, or unconditional?
Do you think everyone should have maximum joy? Do you think it’s okay to sacrifice others as long as you get what you want?
What is a “right” anyway, in this context?
You say I don’t have a right to end reality, I say you don’t have a right to continue it.
What I do is frankly none of your business.
I do not continue reality as an act of my own volition. It just continues. But you are supposing that in some way you can choose to end reality, for everyone. You do not have that right.
Frankly, this conversation leads me to suppose that you may be in the right place for your present state of mind. I sincerely hope you are able to work through these issues and to again experience joy.
Cheers.
It was the systemic torture that made my state of mind, not my state of mind that put me in systemic torture.
Reminder that I was taken as a baby. Can you blame a baby for where they are put?
You people just prove more and more how little you know of suffering. Do you intend to outrun it forever?
Yes; to seek joy whatever the circumstance. That’s a fundamentally humane attitude. That is far preferable to an intention to inflict suffering or end joy by ending reality.
Again, you do not have the right to make such a choice on our behalf.
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What kind of a philosopher evades knowledge?
You must accept that there are images, stories, intentions, motives, thoughts, feelings, beliefs and emotions which are in other minds clearly and subjectively to them existing, which you have no access by your own perception.
They exist in their minds as imaginary and fictional objects. How do we know they exist? By their actions, sayings, writings and elaborations on them.
@Endgame_0, you effectively are suggesting that one ought to force everyone in the universe to drink cyanide-laced Flavor Aid because you presuppose that they are suffering like you are and you think your judgment that they would be better off not existing should override any wish on their part to continue existing. Even if one does have a right to end one’s own existence does not give one a right to end others’.
No, I’ve explained earlier in the thread that ending my own existence bears the possibility of me returning, and so ending all existence is the only real insurance.
Although, keep in mind, I came here to learn and share ideas.
I also consider, what of the possibility of existence starting over again? Or, what if the cost of ending all existence is so extreme that it may actually be preferable to exist?
You have no right to end all existence for everyone else, regardless of your own suffering and your thoughts about how you could be reincarnated.
You have no right to decide another’s rights
Also y’all are disturbingly tolerant and silent to child trafficking
You’re the one proposing we kill everyone else in the universe just to spare you suffering.
When you say you were “child trafficked by the government” (and the key words here are “by the government”) that seems to imply that means you were adopted or fostered and you object to your adoptive or foster parents.
See, the thing is that you’ve repetitively gone on about this by the government and that by the government, including that the government is forcing you take meds, which implies paranoia and lack of insight and that you are on a treatment order for what underlies that.
That combined with the rest of this thread, including the omnicidal ideation, implies deep underlying mental illness that needs treating, not killing all of humanity as you ideate.
Note that I know all this because I am mentally ill (I am bipolar type I) and I am on meds, but unlike your meds my meds work and I have insight, allowing me to live a normal, happy life (I have occasional days where I am slightly up or a bit down, but nothing really beyond the normal human experience).
You seem to be totally avoidant and committed to misunderstanding.
If you’re so fine with child trafficking, you should see what it’s like to be trafficked, helpless as the world mocks you and offers no chance of salvation. Forget your deeds, imagine you were born into it, completely innocent.
“There is no coming to consciousness without suffering”
The way you “philosophers” avoid knowledge at all costs is really ironic.
It’s not just for me, by the way. It’s for the countless who experienced the same, while you people think you benefit from our damnation since birth.
Try taking an honest look at yourself for once.