A law is a conditional. It says, “If you do X, then you will suffer Y.” It is not normative. Coercion is not ethical normativity. @Banno’s view reduces to “might makes right.” He equivocates between an ethical norm and a coercive means, such as law. You have been following him in this. Banno’s implicit claim, “If we can get enough people to sign our petition into law then we can force people to stop kicking puppies,” has nothing to do with ethical normativity.