An argument for the existence of God

I started with a valid dichotomy, two different types of theirs. I discarded both types of theories, which means that reality cannot exist. The reality, however, exists; therefore, there must be a God who created the universe at the finite past.

God, by definition, is the uncreated Being. If God were created, then we would need another creator, etc. This leads to infinite regress unless you accept that there is a uncreated Being.

I started with that hidden assumption when I discussed two different types of theories that explain the universe. I then showed that neither theory is acceptable, which means you cannot have any reality.

The story is long and can be explained in 6 steps: 1) Time cannot exist at present only, and change, 2) This means that we need two points of time, now and immediate future, in which now is constantly annihilated and the immediate future is constantly created, 3) The physical substances are also subject to creation and annihilation, 4) A computation is needed for the act of creation, 5) there is an entity who does the computation and run the universe, read it create and annihilate physical substances, 6) Therefore we are living in a simulation. I would be happy to expand if you are interested. Just please pick the step you don’t understand and let me know.

I don’t understand you. You are not making any sense.

You need to tell which part you don’t understand. If you do so, I will try to explain.

First, I am not talking about the infinite past but the eternal past. By eternal past, I mean something bigger than any infinity that you can imagine. Second, I am not saying that infinity cannot exist. Space, in fact, could be infinite and exist. I am, however, arguing against the eternal past. All I am saying is that you have to obtain the eternal past to reach from the eternal past to now, and that is not possible since the eternal past does not have a definite value.

If eternalism is correct then points in time are never actually “reached”. From a hypothetical “outside” perspective, different points in time are no different in principle to different points in space; they just occur on another axis.

So the universe might just be a static four-dimensional “block”. Time is just a dimension of the universe and not something that the universe itself is “subject” to, i.e. the words “past”, “present”, and “future” refer to three (equally real) “segments” of the universe, with the universe itself never changing.

That kinda takes away all your ammo to prove the existence of God (not that you ever really explained how God comes into the picture, or what you meant when your brought up simulations).

Sometimes presentism has been a response to the conclusion that eternalism makes the passage of time impossible. If the future already exists, why am I only experiencing the present? Who is experiencing my future and past now?

Does an the infinity of series of moments become a problem for eternalism? Zeno’s turtle and hare couldn’t move in time because they had infinite moments to traverse.

If all times exist, how many times is that?

If God exists, why doesn’t he think the ontology of time is important enough to include in the Bible. If it is included in the future Bible, which possibly exists now, why aren’t we reading it in the future now? Are we?

Eternalism is false since it cannot explain motion and the definite subjective now we experience all the time.

God comes into the picture as a result of discarding all theories for the beginning of time that explain the beginning of the universe. We are basically left with no explanation of how the universe could exist. The universe, however, exists; therefore, there must be a God who created the universe at a finite point in the past.

The story simulation is long and can be explained in 6 steps: 1) Time cannot exist at present only, and change, 2) This means that we need two points of time, now and immediate future, in which now is constantly annihilated and the immediate future is constantly created, 3) The physical substances are also subject to creation and annihilation, 4) A computation is needed for the act of creation, 5) there is an entity who does the computation and run the universe, read it create and annihilate physical substances, 6) Therefore we are living in a simulation. I would be happy to expand if you are interested. Just please pick the step you don’t understand and let me know.

That’s just word salad. You are claiming a distinction without a difference.

The biggest infinity imaginable is the absolute infinite. How is your “eternal past” bigger than that?

So, “you have to obtain infinite past to reach from the infinite past to now, and that is not possible since the infinite past does not have a finite value”. No difference whatsoever.

You don’t need an explanation, nor a God to fill the gap.

Brute fact

Then what is the point for trying to prove anything?

Am merely conveying that there are brute facts which have no further explanation. What possible explanation could you provide for why existence exists?

As has been already mentioned, if God serves as an explanation, what explains God? At what point do we no longer require an explanation.

There would always be explanations. It is just matter of which explanations are more making sense, and that is what we are trying to find here.

If indeed there is no explanation at all after discussions have ran out, then there is always possibility for, then going into some sort of conclusion or new definition based on that conclusion.

Just saying it is a brute fact, hence no need for explanation sounds not quite making sense itself.

That is a very good point. If events exist in the past, now, and the future, then why do we experience only now?

It should be you. You should experience your past and future as well as now if you exist in all these moments.

Probably because it is more exciting to find things on your own rather than understanding them from others. Probably because there is an advantage in finding things on your own rather than learning them from others…

Your conclusion does not follow. This is a God of the gaps, and isn’t a reasonable position.

Are you talking about the absolute infinity that Cantor called God, something that mathematically cannot be grasped, and cannot be complete?

You cannot obtain infinity because it does not have a definite value. You can always add an infinity to infinity, and you still have infinity. So infinity does not have a definite value.

I already discarded both types of theory about the beginning of the universe. Hence, the universe cannot exist. Yet it exists! So?

You can call it whatever you want, but the fact that it isn’t grasped now doesn’t mean that it “cannot be grasped”.

Yeah, but the resulting infinity can still be larger.


Either way you still have not addressed the point that your “eternal” has no meaning whatsoever.

So, we are left with one option: The universe does not exist!

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Correct. So what? It may one day be grasped or not! You talked about absolute infinity in a way that you already grasped it.

No, your resulting infinity is the same.

Even if the past has infinite extension and is not an eternal one, we still have a problem with how we could reach from the infinite past to now.

Proof for a definition?